Love Stefan/Elena relationship and I hope it never ends.

You can love someone but recognise that being with them isn’t necessarily the right thing to do. Elena is basically saying that her feelings are important to her, and she doesn’t want to lose them, but for now being with Stefan isn’t something she can cope with.

As for Jeremy, he grew as a character before she died (such as realising that drugs weren’t actually something he wanted to keep doing), and he still has memory of that. I also think that this isn’t the end of Jeremy’s memories, and that something is going to happen down the line to make him start remembering, giving him the chance to develop more, and to set another storyline in motion.

All fair points. I’ve got issues with this episode myself, just haven’t gotten around to posting yet (and may not, because I suspect Vee will eventually cover it all before me). Would you do us a favour and post your thoughts over in the forums, please? It’s the kind of detailed stuff that’s better over there because it’s easier to discuss.

Forgetting everything else, I want to address what Bobby said about the founders council. Before Haunted, Damon knew that Logan Fell had the compass and knew about vampires. That’s it. Now Damon knows, or at least suspects that the Founders Council has something to do with some people in town knowing about vampires. That gives him a list of people to start with. He knows that they know about vervain. He knows that they don’t know that lapis charms can protect vampires from sunlight. So, it seems to me, the information Damon got from Mrs. Lockwood is huge. Also, it gives Damon a jumping off point for acquiring more information. Seriously, Mayor and Mrs. Lockwood talking about this in a public place turned out to be a major blunder on their part. I absolutely expect it to come back to bite them (maybe literally).

I’ve gone over this in the forums, but Jeremy wouldn’t be so hugely affected by the events in Haunted. He was cleared of his memories of her death, he was told not to worry about her, and not to go looking for her, and it’s all for the best. No character building when you’re fine (lack of a better word) with her leaving.

I wouldn’t call Matt a main character. Assuming he’s dealt with her disappearances before (he mentions that she’s on a drug spree) he’ll get worried, but not because he thinks she’s dead (it would cross his mind because Matt is the worrying type, but he’s optimistic and he won’t dwindle on that thought for long -ie. the whole “ill be waiting for you if you need me” attitude towards Elena after she dumps him is proof of that optimism). Matt and Vicky seem to be living on their own, and they’re young adults. She’s also a very impulsive person, the drugs have shaped her that way. What’s not to say she just left town? Matt knows about Viky’s addiction so he could righteously come to the same conclusion.

thanks vee for sending me that new video of the 162 candles webclip. it was cool :] Susan D. Valach

I get that you are into this show (as we all are) hence you are being critical. But what you need to remember is that all things have their time and place, and although this episode was different than the rest, it still had its purpose and all things will come to light.

I also agree with the others that the characthers did grow from Vicki’s death and that this was for a purpose. Jeremy will be different regardless of having a memory. Elena most certainly is differeny, and Matt will worry about his sister.

I also think it showed that although Damon has his motives, he deeply cares for his brother.

Lastly, although addressing the issue of vampires in public is not a good idea on the Mayor’s part, events like this need to occur to keep the plot and make future events happen so just go with the flow and enjoy the show.