You are delusional. The very last thing Damon wants is another Katherine. I think you would enjoy the show so much more if you could stop seeing Damon as the devil and Stefan as the saint. Your Stefan bias blinds you to the real story. It such a shame.

Damon didn’t tell her to” leave the lake house and do not come back until I say so” either. She didn’t want to go home. She wanted to stay but she couldn’t fight Damon’s command. She couldn’t return until he said, ” Come to me”. He had to tell her she could return. I think he will have to tell her to turn it back on. Otherwise she won’t be able to. If it happens any other way, it would be a huge contradiction in the sire bond mythology as previously demonstrated.

I disagree, which means we will have to agree to disagree.

nice! and I feel the same way about the SB it was useful in this situation…and your right The Brothers are definitely going to have their hands full…I’m looking forward to seeing this this shutdown Elena and watching The Brothers run around trying to keep her in check. (lol)

I answered you earlier with the response of we have to agree to disagree, but I wanted to get back with you and lay out why I disagree.

The sire bond is still in effect, which means Damon can invoke the sire bond and insist that Elena use restraint. However, she will definitely be a full time job. When Damon invoked the sire bond to help Elena with her grief he told her to shut it off. Elena had to obey the action of shutting off her humanity, but just as importantly Elena was begging for help to make it stop. However, the sire bond does not effect feelings, which means that when Elena is ready and allows her humanity, love and compassion to slowly come back to the surface which will happen, it will not be necessary for Damon to invoke the sire bond. Elena will have the ability to allow her feelings to return. I don’t see how that is a contradiction to the sire bond mythology. The sire bond only affects actions, not feelings. The sire bond mythology actually paves the way for Elena to allow her feelings to come back to the surface without a command.

maybe Damon can tell her to start feeling but not feel as devastated as what she was about jermey as before .hope he teaches her some restraint !

I was just thinking, Elena never had a chance to tell Caroline off for telling Stefan that her and d slept together. We don’t even if she’s still pissed at her. It will be interesting to see if inhumane Elena will now get a chance to tell her off, or be rude to her…or will she even care anymore? And her true feelings of the rest of her friends – that will be interesting. Maybe she’ll say nothing because all she interested in is getting human blood…this Elena will be a lot of fun.

Good morning Georgia Peach, I always enjoy talking with you! That’s the difference between you and a few of the people that comment….you talk with people….not at them. You always treat me and others with respect….never talk down to someone……just want you to know your comments are appreciated……your explanations are……ie the sire bond….finally I understand it! Seriously, that damned sire bond for me was confusing…Yay….I finally get it. So Damon will be able to control Elena’s eating habits….and her love/feelings are her own. I have to admit I am in a bit of denial when it comes to who Elena is right now. I’m one of those people who hate change…..LOL and the human Elena is/was my favorite. She was a good girl sort of speak who put others feelings before her own….kind of had a normal life with family and friends. Now she’s a vampire….as you said a predator….that’s a hard pill to swallow. She’s changed so much….losing Jeremy and burning the house down to the ground. For someone like me to watch was pretty hard to see……told you I hate change. LOL As much as I look forward to Elena’s new journey…..I’m nervous….LOL The boys will definitely have their hands full and Damon will have to be especially close by…..that’s another hard pill to swallow for me…..dammit!…..LOL As for Matty, I don’t want anything to happen to him. Like I said I prefer human Elena right now….that may change once I’m used to Vampire Elena. I wasn’t crazy about human Caroline….but the difference when she turned into a Vampire she was fantastic right away.

Yes, Stefan was able to help Caroline adjust. However, he wasn’t successful getting Vicki to adjust-and part of that I really believe has to do with the way the person was as a human. Vicki was not a nice person when she was a human. Caroline had her flaws-and, yes, she could be childish and pretty tacky at time. If I remember correctly, she was pretty upset when she killed the first people she killed. Vicki wasn’t bothered at all by the predator urges she felt, but Vicki was a pretty self serving person when she was “alive.” We even saw that she was the same after she “crossed over” because she wanted to get back in the material world, and agreed to be what turned out to be Esther’s tool to get back, and she proved that she’d do anything to stay here-and even manipulate her brother to do it. Thankfully, as much as Matt loved her, he is a better person than she was, and wouldn’t sacrifice anybody else just so she could stay here with him.

The need to feed is inherent in humans, too, and even a human, if they are starving, will go to some very unpleasant extremes to feed his/herself. We can be predators, too, but fortunately humans figured out a long time ago that you can’t survive if things are in chaos, and that what happens when humans don’t reign in their behavior and prey on each other and other species.

Its been said that vampires feel everything to an extreme, but because they do have superior senses to humans that makes them more powerful in some ways-and that’s where the old saying “absolute power corrupts absolutely,” comes into play. When a being like a human, or a vamp, has power, it takes an act of will not to use it, and part of that is because, along with the natural desire to feed oneself, its also natural to want to protect oneself-and the more power one has, the easier that is to do. So, no, a vampire doesn’t have to kill incessantly, but they’ve pretty well stated over and over that its a vampire’s innate nature to kill and feed, so a vampire has to make a conscious decision to not feed its natural way.

Caroline herself told Alaric last season, I believe, that she still had the desire to “kill,” but running around being a stone killer would keep Caroline from being able to live the life that she wants to live, and so she reigns it in-and that’s it, in a nutshell, really. If a vamp still values killing and all it entails, then he/she will live their life accordingly by moving around constantly so they can attack at will, and then escape the scene of the crime. That’s what Stefan and Klaus were doing when they went on their rampage.Their killing didn’t go unnoticed, but they didn’t get caught, either.

When Stefan is in control of himself, he knows what it takes to maintain that control. He passed that lesson on to Caroline, though she did decide that she didn’t care for the wildlife diet, so she’d settle for the bagged meals. Because Caroline values other things, fortunately, more than she does killing, she controls herself. As mentioned, Stefan also tried to teach Vicki control, but she was one who decided that she liked the killing-and so she had to be stopped, and Stefan was the one who stopped her.

I think he may find it fun at first but I can see the new Damon not liking it so much after a while. It was her humanity and her as a person who he fell in love with, even E as a vampire had compassion…

unless Silas is a hallucination to Bonnie?? I mean he hasn’t been seen by anyone else yet?

Remember Katherine taught Damon the method, stopping buggies. Good technique never grows old. LOL

Sooooooooooo True. Elena’s gona be the bomb. Hope it doesn’t take 30 years. Enjoy

The humor is what lured me into this show. I thrive on dark humor, pithy dialogue, blatant sarcasm and other people’s perceptions of their own egotism. I pretty much just described Damon, didn’t I? ^_^

Going by something that I believe Julie P just hinted at in an interview-and, yes, I am aware of the idea of taking the lady’s comments with a grain of salt-Elena’s new emotionless state may very well put the bond at least on hold. If it does, it will highlight another of Ms. Plec’s statements, which will go down as a brilliant statement of truth, but just not applied the way that everyone thought she meant it when she said it. This was the statement where she said, I believe, that Elena would have to “die” to break the sire bond. Well, what did that seem to imply, at the time? That Elena would have to undergo yet another physical death. However, the way its being presented, in this metamorphosis that Elena is now going through, the old Elena is “dead.” Now, maybe it only works while she is in her emotional state. The sticky wicket will be that, if that happens, then the fail safe that they thought they were creating with Damon being in the driver’s seat because he’s(technically) her sire will be destroyed, and they will be in the situation that they had feared, with an out of control, unfeeling Elena who’s going to totally immerse herself in her now unfettered vampire state. Then all our questions will be, what is going to trigger her emotions to return, because I can’t believe that this will be Elena’s permanent condition now, as an unrepentant vampire.

It’s hilarious!