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Posted by | December 7, 2012, 6:33 (EST) | 1,596 Comments
Category: The Vampire Diaries TV

Here’s a little more of next week’s midseason finale, O Come, All Ye Faithful (EP409), and hey look, there’s snow! Festive!

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  • http://twitter.com/robinclank2 robin

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  • http://twitter.com/robinclank2 robin

    why do all my comments get blocked

  • Lauren

    On Damon, Elena, and the sire bond issue:
    I feel like it is just a hurdle that their relationship can get past. Damon cares about and respects Elena enough that he would not abuse this new power that he has over her. It is to be expected that the occasional stray word or thoughtless sentence will take away Elena’s free will. But I am confident that Damon will learn to control what he says. The complication comes in when we remember the behavior of Klaus’ hybrids. They were known to adjust their actions based on what they thought would make Klaus happy or unhappy, sometimes without a direct command. That makes Elena a little unpredictable. But I still think it is nothing they can’t handle. It will be hard work, but Elena and Damon can learn to deal with this sire bond.
    Now onto the idea of the sire bond being unbreakable. I don’t believe that at all. I think they should find another witch and get a second opinion. In fact, I bet the sire bond will be broken before the end of the season. Elena and Damon are two characters the show cannot lose, so the separation idea is ridiculous. On the other hand, the sire bond drama will eventually run its course and resolve itself as all plot devices do. That means the writers will have to find some way around it. The only question is how.
    In the meantime it will be interesting to see how all the characters deal with it, including Stefan and Caroline. I think Stefan is aware of the reality of the situation but just doesn’t want to face it. He knows Damon isn’t really a bad person (based on the standards the show sets for basic morality, which are pretty low). He knows Damon cares about Elena and wouldn’t do anything to hurt her. I think Stefan also realizes—on some level—that were he in Damon’s place, he wouldn’t be able to leave Elena.
    Caroline, on the other hand, is just the teensiest bit delusional. She puts Stefan on a pedestal that he definitely does not deserve to be on (he’s basically an ex-serial killer). And she demonizes Damon with an almost religious fervor. It is obvious that she is projecting Klaus’ faults onto Damon. It goes without saying that this is unfair behavior, but I’ll say it anyway. The bitch is being unfair. Caroline is judging Elena and sticking her nose into Elena’s relationships because she doesn’t want to face the truth about her own love triangle. (more on that later)

  • http://twitter.com/robinclank2 robin

     SUCH a terrible friend right! How dare she feel like Stefan might be a safer
    romantic option for her best friend than Damon? It’s not like Damon
    violated her physically and mentally at all! Such disgusting, terrible
    motives! How dare she let her terrible personal experiences with Damon
    stand in the way of Damon/Elena sex?

  • a_softsong

    Energizer Bunny with a duracell backup.  LOL

  • a_softsong

    Klaus will threaten to kill Stefan but, he love Stefan and will not kill him.  Klaus is a lot of bluff.  He’s a big teddy bear.  Klaus really only kills when he feels he’s been cheated and when he’s being threatened.

  • ihatepeople

    He keeps going and going and going…

  • ihatepeople

    Consult another witch and get a second opinion…Love it! He should absolutely do that.

  • ihatepeople

    I knew what you meant. :)

  • Iansfan

    Hey asoftsong, not only Stefan should witness this scene under a shower with a strong thunderstorm going on, lightning, thunder and a lot of electricity in the air, Elena screaming and Damon moaning… I´d love to watch that too…

  • Iansfan

    well as I posted earlier: The sire bond isn´t as bad. Elena really loves Damon and she will find an eternity of ways to please him. As long as we are allowed to be a part of that we can keep enjoying. Let Stefan and Caroline find a cure that no one needs and Tyler and Klaus fight out who is the real alphamonster and let  Damon and Elena find at least 50 ways to make love around the sirebond…;)

  • Logic

    coming on a site to tell off teens for being teens in my opinion is quite juvenile… 

  • Iansfan

    Hey guys, another tidbit of  Damon psychology: I rewatched a lot of Damon scenes and came across the one with Andie -sexy reporter girl – in his great bathtub. He told her that he was in love with a girl he couldn´t have. The worst for him was that  HE WAS NOT IN CONTROL.  He, the tough guy who takes the responsibility for everything that is around him, makes dead or alive decisions, lets Elena even hate him to save her and is always in control. That is what I loved about all the tender and sweet and hot scenes of the last two episodes, they  showed him differently. He let Elena take the control over him (while they were having sex), he didn´t demand but beg (to not tell Stefan instantly) and he didn´t pretend to be and feel what others expected him to (being the better man, doing the right thing) but he was simply himself without any masks and facades. That was so touching to watch.

  • Guest

     Quick lesson in how ratings work: Shippers, the crazy ones who get on the internet and spew venom at everyone and everything, make up a small percentage of the viewing population. The number of those with Nielsen boxes (which is how they count viewers fyi) is even smaller. If anyone who is commenting on this site has a Nielsen box please stand up. The ratings fluctuate throughout the season. TV ratings were down in general that night.

    That being said you know as well as I do that Damon/Elena have more fans. You can’t argue this.

  • Guest

     Sorry to butt in guys but KW said they tried to make the audience hate Damon and JP clarified later that they wanted to remind the audience where Damon was at as a character. The story is going in the direction they have planned since the beginning trust me. Ian Somerhalder is great but a big part of Damon’s complexity comes from the writing.

    I’m sorry that 3×22 upset you so much but it was absolutely necessary. If Elena had picked Damon she would’ve inevitably went back to Stefan. I bet you a million bucks that Elena is not going back to Stefan this season. It’s funny how so many people have invested so much in Damon and Elena that they feel personally victimized by the writers when so many other couples on other tv shows have taken longer to get together. i am willing to post links to interviews to prove my point.

  • Guest

     Ugh. Vamplena is only better because she’s currently riding your favorite Salvatore. I, like Damon, love Elena either way and the only difference between her human self and vampire self as of 4×07 is that she’s no longer depressed.

  • AustrianTVDfan

    Oh come on, ok Caroline was his little minion, but he never compelled her to have sex with him, she was so willing, he have never compelled a woman for sex!
    And I don’t like her when she’s judgy about Damon, when at the same time, she’s falling for klaus, who has killed and compelled much more people than Damon, he even killed Jenna!
    Miss Judgy also forgets that Damon was the one who saved her life when Tyler was after her, and he got bitten himself and almost died, remember? Ach Damon is such a bad person….. and saint Stefan is never selfish! And how is Stefan the better option when he only loves Elena when she’s sad & brooding (like him) and human! Damon loves her unconditionally! Elena said it last episode… Damon was always there for her, he didn’t love Caroline, but he truly loves Elena!

  • AustrianTVDfan

    Yes and she was so after him back then!

  • AustrianTVDfan

    ;)))

    Can’t wait! I hope we can enjoy this scene sooner rather than later!

  • Iheartdamon

    Andie, rip, knew that Damon was in love with Elena. She was compelled, but the girl know the issues I didn’t mind her. Dammit ripper Stephan for causing her demise!

  • AustrianTVDfan

    yes you are so right! The Damon we saw the last two episodes was pure Damon, and I love him even more because of that, he was so sweet, happy, anxious (when he woke up and Elena wasn’t in bed), playful, sexy (in school), concerned (Ripper Stefan), caring (with Charlotte), and then at the end of last episode: so vulnerable and disbelieving & hopeful at the same time!
    OMG did I mention that I love Damon :) and Ian for his awesome acting!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

    That was me. wow. I was quoted!  thanks. “Liked” my own comment. Weird. lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

    yup.  I thought that same thing myself. The only way to give her her freedom is to take away her freedom to choose. It’s really an impossible situation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

     Stefan’s ease with lying to people around him and to himself is one of his worst traits, and a large reason I’ve hated watching his relationship with Elena from Season 2 on.  He is desperate; and grasping at any straws he can find.  Sad considering how mature he was when he actually ended his relationship to Elena.

  • Manon

    Damn… I hope Jeremy and Elena will be able to live with each other again. I always loved their sibling relationship, so I hate it that Jeremy kind of wants to kill Elena, while we all know he actually doesn’t want to! Crappy situation those Gilbert’s are in!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

    The Sire Bond is bad.   It forces doubt into Damon, and that is poisonous in any relationship.  Imagine this situation, You are Damon and have enjoyed a committed whole-hearted relationship with Elena for more then a century.  On some adventure they find themselves in an event that suddenly suppressed Elena’s Sire Bond for a moment.  Just long enough to see her drop down in tears instantly, finally able to mourn a long suppressed “True Love” she had for Stefan that she has been unable to express because of the Sire Bond.  She loves Damon for being there, and taking care of her, treating her with such devotion, but it was not what she would have wanted.  Talk about devastating for all involved.  This is what Damon fears, and even as they move forward, will continue to fear.

    The other issue with the Sire Bond was something that Elena admitted and set aside far to easily.  “The Bond doesn’t change how I feel, just how I act.  My feelings for you haven’t changed, Damon, nothing’s changed.”  She is ever the Martyr, even last night putting her life on the front line to save Caroline.  She casually surrendered her free will to act, to save her freedom to love.  She’ll hide when she is uncomfortable, changing by degree into what she perceives to be Damon’s perfect partner.  Losing herself by degree.

    I think that Elena should have Damon tell her again, point blank, not to drink form Blood Bags.  They both know that is artificial.  Then have her practice drinking from one anyway.  Help her build up the strength of will to resist the Bond’s imperative.

  • AustrianTVDfan

    sooo judgy!!

    I don’t think that 90% are teenage girls!

    I’m 26, I have a child on my own and also whatch the show and love it, not only for the love triangle or the couples but also for the storyline!
    And sorry but Delena happened two episodes ago, so let the people discuss it and be happy about it. There are also enough comments about the storyline.

    So who are you to tell people what they should whatch or comment about…. when you don’t like the comments, don’t read them!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

    I’m gonna call it now.  Stefan is pissed in that scene at the end because Klaus gets neutralized somehow, and Jeremy’s de-tox helps enough for him to control his instincts to kill this sister, and Elena tells Stefan point blank that SHE stopped Damon from un-Siring her, and to butt out.  Stripping him of both his “fixes” making him finally face the fact that he’s lost Elena for good.  (Guy can dream right?)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

     I tend to agree to a point.  Example:
    Elena: “I think I’m falling in love with him.”
    Caroline: “You are not in love; you are Sired to him.”

    Point blank, she assumes Elena’s feelings are controlled by the Bond.  Even though Tyler unequivocally pointed out otherwise.  Considering all he has been involved with between himself and this Pack Mates, he is pretty much the only expert in the room as it were.  Though I’m sure that by the end of this, Damon and Elena will have all the ins and outs of a Sire Bond down as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

     Yes, this is true, but how well with that dynamic would now that she might be almost compelled to agree?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

     lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Welton/100001408890435 William Welton

     Um… bitter much?  Human Elena: “When I’m with Damon he consumes me.”  yeah, totally not into him. 

    I’ll point out again, Stefan broke up with her.  Now free, she acted on her feelings for Damon, the feelings that created that Sire Bond in the first place.  Tyler is the Sire Bond Expert, and HE says that the Bond does not force feelings, just actions.  For example: If Damon asked her to kill Bonnie she would ACT on it, killing her (Sire Bond), but she’ll hate Damon, because her FEELINGS are her own.

  • Logic

    hahaha love it! 

  • Logic

    thats something i’m very curious about too

  • Swecar

    It is amazing how a certain part of the fan base now hates Caroline just because she has her OWN opinion. They obviously prefer siring. ;)

  • Sweet Caroline (Swecar)

    So about the part where they will all die if Klaus dies…

  • Manon

    I know, right? Really weird… why does Tyler want to take out Klaus? They will all die! So stupid, I can’t even – fdns;fn*gfrfa

  • Manon

    See? Elena’s better as a vampire! You gave the answer yourself ;)

  • Anonymous

    I hope people do realize that when Stefan main goal in obtaining the cure for Elena, it also means that he is purposely taking her free will away from her as she did decide for herself that she would rather embrace her new self.

  • AustrianTVDfan

    totally agree here!
    She clearly said that she didn’t want her humanity back if Jeremy loses his instead and that Stefan should let her go! But he is still after that cure!

  • Iansfan

    …welcome to the club… :)

  • AustrianTVDfan

    Yeah same here, I really don’t know what they are up to with this storyline …. as we all know when klaus dies they will be all dead, so no vampire diaries to watch ;) but maybe there is an other plan, maybe to haul him back in a coffin like at the end of last season, but repeating that would be very dull!

  • AustrianTVDfan

    I would love Elena to tell Stefan that she stopped Damon from un-siring her because she want to be with Damon no matter what :))

  • Know what ur talking about

    So that the fact that Eleana offered herself up 2 protect Caroline isn’t thoughtful? She is doing something she wants 2 do and not what every1 is telling her to do.

  • Iansfan

    … well even if she took the cure it wouldn´t make her the Elena Gilbert from before anyway. She changed, made new experiences and they were surely not purely bad. Stefan will never ever have her back like she was even if there will be a breakup with Damon sometime in the future. 
    I can´t imagine that Elena turns to Stefan and away from Damon anyway. Because that would be no good storytelling. A girl that can´t decide which one to take and wandering from the one to the other for the next two seasons. 
    I don´t believe that. But I don´t know where this love triangle is heading to either. It will be interesting to see…

  • ihatepeople

    I definitely agree. I also think that he’s hunting so hard for the cure not just for her but for him so he no longer has to be the Ripper.

  • ihatepeople

    Remember it changes what she does but not what she feels. She is very firm in her feelings FINALLY and I think that plays a big part in overriding any doubt he has.

  • ihatepeople

    I know. I find his insistance that she be who he thinks she should be and do what he thinks she should do to be controlling like that stalker ex who can’t accept you’ve left them. It’s her life. He now knows it doesn’t change her feelings so there is no reason for him to say when her sire bond is broken we’ll see how she feels.

  • Iansfan

    Well actually he never took Damon´s offer to let himself be helped with his drinking habits. Damon told him that he would be there for him whenever he was in danger of going over the edge again. Instead of training to live with blood he went straight back to his bunny diet.

  • ihatepeople

    No, it wouldn’t make any sense. She would be regressing and not growing. The idea is to move forward not go backwards.





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