Yep you’re absolutely right. No matter which way you go Damon is pretty much damned.

AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! HURRY UP HURRY UP HURRY UP!!!!! OMG!!!!!!

I didn’t read all the books. Could you elaborate please?

So I know everybody’s talking about the love triangle but can I just talk about school. In the Hitfix interview Julie said there attendance is great but not interesting so they don’t show it. The timeline does not hold up. From Bringing out the Dead to 1912 was like four days of no school.  The ball was like the day after Alaric got stabbed, and then after the ball Elena spends the whole next day in a cave, then the next day she is breaking and entering into Meredith Fell’s house. Is it a four day weekend or something? Not complaining, just thought it was funny. Jeremy’s right: in light of everything who cares about school.

Caroline isnt going to die, at least not this season, but Alaric might after he gets done chocking Elena and torturing Caroline. In episode 21 Elena is determined to protcect Caroline from Alaric. Theres a video that shows Caroline tied up at school and having pencils stabbed in her hands and Alaric is choking Elena at scholl and says that she doesnt deserve to live.

We have the same theory. 

‘In the same way that we had to convince Ian Somerhalder that Damon being a good guy was part of a long road that he was traveling and that it was OK, you want to convince the fans that this is the midpoint of the story.’
So Damon is going back to being the good guy, which as Ian has expressed is not as much fun as bad Damon! I found that line interesting as I thought Ian had said Damon is going back to being bad again… Not so fast!
I wonder if Elena is perhaps going to be turned? I just read a little tease from Joseph Morgan saying in the last 20 secs of finale we will be shocked, we will want to fast forward to S4 to see what happens next, it will cause strong emotions in the fandom… Putting that together with JP saying she hopes we will understand Elena’s choice , considering her journey this season with Klaus sucking her dry of her blood, threatening her friends lives , etc… It could be possible, we would understand it, and it would definitely be the shocker of all!!!
The other thought I had is that perhaps she chooses Damon and tells Stefan before telling Damon. Then by the time she gets to Damon, he has somehow sacrificed himself, gotten himself 86-ed and he never finds out that she chose him… Now that WOULD be tragic!

One other thought… Julie said of the next episode with Damon and Elena that it will be ‘a motel, some bourban, shirtlessness…’
So what does that mean? That Elena is going to give in to her attraction for Damon because she had some bourban? I really hope that’s not going to be the case! I mean if you’re going to give them a moment, can it be a real and organic one… Not tainted with ‘oh, I’m gonna hate myself in the morning for this!’ As far as Damon has come, he so deserves better than that!!!

I hate the idea of Elena turning at this point in the show for a lot of reasons. If it happens I’ll probably stop watching. I know she turns in the books and a lot of people want it to stay true to that, and I suppose it’ll have to happen some time or another, but I’d rather they wait for their last season, whenever that ends up being. Preferably at the near-end of the series if not the very end.

Im thinking along the same lines. I think that right before she tells Damon that she chooses him and loves him, she somehow ends up telling Stefan and before she even gets to Damon something tragic like Klaus kidnaps her and compels her to forget everything or Damon sacrifices himself and she never gets to tell him happens. It would be sad and amazing all at the same time. 
Did u guys seen Ian and Nina at Coachella this year?? OMG they were so cute. and THEY KISSED!! IN PUBLIC!! OMG!!!

SPOILER ALERT!!!  In Shadow Souls…when they share the room together, (Matt in another room) Elena just gets out the bathroom from bathing, Damon by the window, they’re arguing one minute, then not the next. etc. etc…….sorry don’t wanna ruin it for everybody. They had a lot of moments before and after that, but THAT specific motel scene was a big one, and if u read Shadow Souls you definitely would not have forgotten it. Maybe u should read all the books.

 … you see, and I am even married… ;)

Well Damon is the one who would be drinking the bourban and would be shirtless. LOL. I know what you mean though about not wanting it to be cheapened. Seriously though I doubt they’ll actually have them sleep together in the cardinal sense just yet. At most we might get a deeply passionate kiss with his shirt getting undone but someone will stop it from going further. Either she’ll say it’s not right or he’ll stop her because he wants her to be sure and not regret it. I mean he was hot and heavy with Katherine when she first came back but he put the breaks on because he had to know if she loved him first. We see what happened there. As much as he wants her I can’t imagine him not wanting her to be sure first. Also it would be out of character for her to jump into bed with Damon after being so mean then going to the dance with Stefan in the very next episode. She is wishy washy but they haven’t made her a tramp.

I wouldn’t be surprised by this but it would completely piss me off for them to torment Damon like that and tease us yet AGAIN. Unfortunately if they actually allow her to choose Damon he would only be allowed happiness for like a nano second then they’d either rip her away from him or kill him off. They could follow the books where he temporarily dies and he is mad when he finally is brought back because he doesn’t think she tried as hard to bring him back as she did when Stefan was gone. Of course in the process she would be back with Stefan before Damon ever gets his chance with her. Very tragic but expected given how much they like to torture Damon’s heart and his fans. What I will say is based on what has been said I get the impression she will at least tell him her feelings before they’re ripped apart if that is what they have happen. Ian said it was hugely emotional and that she was extremely honest about her feelings. It would be like when Princess Leia said I love you to Han Solo before he was sealed in carbonite. LOL! That would suck but I wouldn’t be shocked.

 There is hardly a scene with Damon without Burbon (too few shirtless scenes … :) so Damon drinking before or after kissing a girl is not cheap it is normal. In the motel room of the book they don´t sleep together either (not the way we normal human mortals think of it), nonetheless the scene is very intense and what those two interchange there is very deep, beautiful and very emotional. So if they managed to transfer that to the screen it would be a great moment for sure.
One thing that I really love about Damon is that he is so experienced, patient, appreciative and understanding – like a man who has 164 years of experience with women – He doesn´t push anything with Elena, he is on her side, no matter how far she tries to push him away, he sees what she feels even before she does. (*Swoon* – the perfect man, right?), so to cut a long story short, there might be no actual sex scene, anyway it could be awesome … ;)

The cheapening part was a response to

DIVORCE HIM! LOL

Hahahah!

 That’s sad! My husband enjoys it…but he likes and empathizes w Stefan. And of course I am a devoted Damon/Delena fan.

Eh, the guys are always shirtlessness in practically every episode.

I really, really hope they don’t, I’d feel the same as I would if it were taken off the air I think. Maybe the Salvatore house blows up and it changes the show forever because they’ll have to all meet up elsewhere from now on :p

NOOOO! Their house is too beautiful to blow up especially Damon’s bedroom. Haha.

 Thanks!

I saw mention of it on examiner.com today but my work computer blocks viewing so I had to search it on my Android. It took a lot of searching and I didn’t see it by directly going to Utube. I Googled vampire diaries webclip 3×19. A couple of them came up but there was one that was a little clearer. It was on fanpop.

I have a feeling the “new” villain will be Esther’s spirit taking over Rebekah’s body and that is the spell Esther was doing in the extended promo.  Esther had hold of Rebekah’s hands and the fire in the fireplace was huge.  There was definitely a spell going on there.   Obviously Esther needs a new vessel because the mother/daughter Bennett witch line was severed and she can no longer channel through the Bennett witch line (dead or alive).  With no one to channel through Esther would fade back to “hell”…as Klaus is the one that sent her there.   Esther absorbing into Rebekah, her Original vampire daughter, could definitely be an evil indestructible force.  That would not be a witch dying and becoming a vampire, that would be the spirit of a witch that practices dark magic taking over an Original (daughter) vampire……… thus creating a true witch-vampire……..just speculation of course.