I’d like to add not only did how he treat her after she turned contribute to their demise but also all the horrible things he did last season to lose her trust.

As for Damon he also worked all of season 3 to bring Stefan back for both Stefan and Elena’s sakes. He could’ve bad mouthed Stefan the whole time he was gone but he didn’t. He defended him the times that Elena thought the worst of him.

Whether it is already on its way or not remains to be seen and this is beside the point.
There is no need to attack Delena fans for their opinion. You can voice your own while being respectful to others.
Yeah, Stefan bleeding Damon dry and not letting him see Elena is the kind of help Elena & Damon don’t need and certainly did not ask for.
The problem is, Stefan wants to keep Damon in the dungeon until the cure is found (if there is a cure at all). It could take years which means he took the liberty to imprison Damon for how long he pleases because of his jealousy and denial.
Elena had Feelings for Damon before turning and the sire bond is the very proof of that.
And for the record Elena and Damon DID NOT BETRAY Stefan. He broke up with her, informed Damon about it and they were free to act on the feelings they have been suppressing for ages to spare Stefan’s feelings.
Stefan let her die
Stefan did NOT accept her as a vampire,wanted to fix her…
The list can go on and on…
She fell out of love with him. Simple truth; it happens all the time to millions of people and they get over it.
Denial won’t change any of that.

“I’d like to add not only did how he treat her after she turned contribute to their demise but also all the horrible things he did last season to lose her trust. ”

I would love to count those things, ihatepeople, but Elena honestly doesn’t seem to hold them against Stefan. Or at least, not consciously.

It is true that Damon defended Stefan to Elena over and over, even after the wickery bridge incident.

and i could gone with a list for Damon as well ;)

Love everything you said. Sometimes it is hard to voice your opinion about Stefan/Elena or my support for Stefan and love of both Salvatores without getting called a “hater” or “mis-informed!” It’s sad and hilarious at the same time.But I was never scared or shy away from challenges! Nice to see a fellow Stefan supporter here!

Sure he did horrible things. I never said he didn’t. They’re vampires. I think in his little journey to bring Stefan back started out that way but towards the end he realized he loves him more than he thought. He turned Abby to spare Stefan the guilt and shame, he vowed to help him with his blood addiction, he was happy when they became a team and he was also truly upset when his Homecoming plan failed and Stefan betrayed him because he thought they’d never get him back.

I wanted to say this to whoever thinks I hate Elena or have on rose-colored glasses about a certain Salvatore…..

No need to call me bias or “unsubstantiated”….I’m not. Chill out at
bit and re-read what I wrote before you go on an attack.  As I said many
times, I don’t hate Elena…I just think she needs to emotionally grow
up. You seem to judge Bex a lot and that supports your claim on why
Elena needs to always regulate a Salvatores relationship with her. She
is dangerous, etc. But so is everyone on this show apparently
now……except for Matt and April. We could start that
discussion….but that might take awhile. It seems to me that some are
giving Elena every excuse in the book while Damon & Stefan seem like
lackeys in their own selfish pursuit of her…..but to each their own I
guess. Season 4 is not over….she still has a chance to impress me 

Don’t assume that my support of Bex is just b/c I want to see her and
Stefan “hook up.” Unlike some, my main support of a character does not
depend on who they happen to be sleeping with at a present time. I
wanted Stefan to move on…..with anyone! I didn’t give a damn who! Just
as long as he got some emotional distance and peace. I like Bex….b/c I
understand her like some others. She could hook up with Matt for all I
care ad I would still like her…….She is powerful, and dangerous, and
scarred to many times to trust anyone in Mystic falls b/c she gets
betrayed to often. Elena should know by now that if Bex really wanted to
kill one of the Salvatores, she would have done it by now. Didn’t stop
either one of them from sleeping with her. Elena did not make it seem
like Stefan’s “safety” from Bex was her #1 concern. She said and I quote
“Stefan….What are you doing with Bex? She tried to kill me!” Not “What
are you doing…..Can you trust her? She tried to kill me, and tortured
Damon physically, and you emotionally. WTH STEFAN??” If she said
something along those lines……your reason why she asked would make me
better support it. “She is just sooooo compassionate and worried, etc.” Until then….

Both brothers are hurting right now (Stefan more than Damon at the moment) And Stefan is not TORTURING Damon. Why are some trying to make it seem soooo inhumane. He is keeping him weak so in case he gets out he will at least be a little slower getting to Jeremy. Yeah…Stefan is getting a lil emotioal smile over it, but ok…..considering the circumstances, I can understand it. Damon is not a wuss who needs to be coddled all the time, ecspecially now. H is fine….when it comes to Stefan he has no emotional guilt whatsoever so, while Stefan can stop being a dick to Damon…Damon can stop being a dick to Stefan by being petty and trying to rub it in. It makes him seem like he really doesn’t give a damn about Stefan’s emotionally state at all (not that I expect him too….when has he ever) Not his physical state….but his emotional one. I personally like when the Salvatores act like brothers to each other, and not petty brats.

I just needed to get that out :-) Don’t throw vervain bombs at me! I have daggers…..lol

Exactly! This! Sometimes it seems that here Damon can do no wrong while Stefan can never do nothing right! I am glad that Stefan saved both Damon and Jeremy from themselves. Even though Elena asking Stefan for help seemed a little presumptuous. lol. It would be nice to see Damon acknowledge Stefan’s pain about this triangle for once. Stefan has always said how he knows Damon loves Elena, and even sent her to him when he was dying so he could see her one last time. Now that Damon has the girl, I am not sure he would be as giving or tolerable of her affections for Stefan. Now that this situation has flipped :-) But I love Damon too….I just want him to be a better big brother now when it comes to emotional support. And on the other hand…..Stefan can stop being a shady dick to Damon in the cell about Elena. I know he can’t help it…..but maybe being the bigger person will really show Damon and Elena that even though he may still care, they can’t cripple him and then turn around and need his help all the damn time 

I think when the SB is officialy gone and if Stefan sees that Elena still wants to pursue Damon then he will step aside and except it once and for all but for now he still has that doubt and bit of hope..there was a reason this SB was thrown into the story to keep both sides of the fandom clinging on and to keep questioning ourselves…there is always some crazy twist in this show…but can’t wait for tonights episode and many more to come so we can get all the answers!!!

Okay, folks, time to move on from this conversation. No one is going to change anyone’s mind and feelings will just get hurt.

(Note: Not aimed at Robin specifically; this was just the most recent comment in this conversation when I wrote this. Thanks!)

That’s exactly what I’m saying and I’m basing it on the promo where we see Klaus and Stefan arguing about it. Stefan likes this excuse to keep Damon locked up. He’s not going to go out of his way to nullify it.

I think Klaus just likes to stoke the fires of the brothers’ conflict. Divide and conquer always serves him well.