@ Rehabber- OK my friend, you asked me to watch this episode again…this time not expecting anything…still wasn’t my favorite episode. However, it wasn’t as bad as I originally thought….still don’t like Jules, still think she looks like she needs a bath, and still thinks she needs to sit in Mason’s chair awhile. I still think the whole Stefan being stuck in the tomb with Kat was useless….I don’t think that Stefan would have to had done the deed with Katherine to have “Oomph”, but, because of her weakened state, it would have been nice if he had played mind games with her, as in get into her head. Still not fond of the romance, if that’s what you call it, between Elena & Stefan, still think it’s boring as hell….I do not think Stefan is boring, I still think the writers wasted a huge opportunity. Still think Bonnie’s an idiot.

Now, for what I did like….the deal Elena made with Elijah is really intersting. With Elijah, you have to be very specific on the deals you make. Do I believe he is a vamp of his word? Yes…but I also think he sticks to the deal in very specific terms. The deal was that Elena’s family and friends would be kept safe and not be harmed, Elena was to go about living her life, until Elijah was ready to take on Klaus. Then, Elijah would come for Elena and they would draw Klaus out of his hiding place and Elijah would kill him….so in the whole scheme of things, Elijah never guaranteed Elena’s safety did he? All he did was promise to protect her friends and family and try to kill Klaus…does this give anyone cause for concern?

Also, did no one notice all of the grimoires that Luka and Jonas had? The simple, “they all belong to members of our family is a bit to simple”…I think they’ve been stealing witches spells for a long time….shouldn’t this send a zap to Bonnie’s “danger radar”?

Thank God Damon listened to Alaric for once and went home…poor Rose, she stepped into the line of fire and got herself bit…it doesn’t look like it’s going to well for her…..

Again, the werewolf storyline doesn’t do a thing for me, but I do think Tyler’s transformation was filmed wonderfully. Considering this is just a prime time TV show on the CW, they did a great job with the special effects…Also thought Trevino shined throughout this whole process…but I’m still concerned…what do you guys think is going to happen when he finds out “Dear Uncle Mason” is dead? Who’s he going to side with? Is he still going to want to be with Caroline, or will his let his wolf nature take over? If he lets his wolf nature take over, that means he becomes a threat to all the vampires, by this I mean both Stefan and Damon. That’s something to think about.

Final thoughts…since Elena has made this deal with Elijah, which protects EVERYONE she cares for, this would also include Damon, too. Well, since Jules thinks she can come to town being all billy bad ass,and tell Damon he’s marked, why not introduce her to Elijah? Hell, just hand Elijah the whole freaking wolf pack, after all, a deal is a deal, isn’t it? Wouldn’t want to be a werewolf in Mystic Falls if that happens!

I have relatives that live in the atlanta ‘area’ (lucky) and they are distant relatives and we recently became closer due to a circumstance but anyway – on with my story. Several of them have seen Ian and nina out together in different areas. And I was like Well they are very good friends and they were like Um, no, this was definitely more than friends – no doubt in their minds that Ian and nina are very much a couple off screen. Considering the source and who told me, I have absolutely no reason to not believe them. They did not know I watched the series and when we got to talking and they found out I watched it then they just spewed all that info out on their own. Any thoughts on this? Did i miss something?  (Quote)

And if they are a couple off screen what difference does it make? I’m not sure what you think you missed, or where you are wanting to take this, much less how this pertains to the show. Ian and Nina have a right to their privacy and what they get in Atlanta is Southern Hospitality. In other words, the freedom to live their lives without intrusion. I live in Atlanta too and can say that when Ian and Nina are approached to sign autographs for fans, they are always gracious to do so, as do all members of the TVD cast. They get to enjoy all that Atlanta has to offer, which is quite a bit, and not have to worry about being stalked by fans or the paparazzi. They get enough of that in Los Angeles.

I have mentioned the injuries and illness the cast has endured this season. The whole cast are real troopers and know the show must go on. I don’t think that is wrong to discuss as that does pertain to the show. As for Ian and Nina’s personal life, I just don’t think that needs to be discussed on this website. Just my opinion…I’m just sayin…. Others may disagree with me and I hope I did not sound to abrupt. If I did, I apologize….

Digger, yea, it says under the leave a reply section that if u want to discuss relationships to go to the forums – that’s ok, you prolly didn’t see it. Don’t take what GP said personally, she is just a big fan like all of us and we all want their privacy to be honored. They have their own reasons for not coming out about it and that is fine with me/us. ;)

Please don’t make it into a big deal, it was a simple question and from that simple question I got a reply that almost implied that I don’t give a crap about privacy, well, you don’t know me so you can’t ‘imply’ that. I never heard this b4 and i figured this may be the place to ask some other fans – apparently not, wrong thread, my apologies. Plus, I thought it would be cute if they were that’s all.  (Quote)

Hi Digger- I kive in the Atlanta area as well. I can honestly say that whatever the cast decide to do with their personal life needs to stay private. GA Peach said that whenever the cast are spotted around town, all of them are very gracious and sign autographs. I know this for a fact to be true. It’s different for these guys down here because they can get out and about without a bunch of paparazzi and camera’s following them around (like what they have to deal with in LA). In a sence, it’s like a breath of fresh air. I don’t think GA Peach meant to be abrupt, it’s just not something we talk about and it really doesn’t pertain to the show or where the story is going to take us:)

I think the disappointment with this episode does not come from the actual quality of it, but the fact that I, like so many other fans, got wrapped up in teasers, cliffhanger rumors and spoilers. I forgot to just enjoy the show. I was expecting more, but I am satisfied with what I got and will from now on be staying far away from spoilers. These actors are amazing, and the writers are fantastic. We’re only halfway through the season. I have faith there is a wicked plan for the rest of it. With that being said, I did not appreciate how misleading that promo was. It was some serious false advertising, especially when coupled with the interview teasers. They’re not playing fair. But I forgive them ;)  (Quote)

Jill,
Acutally I agree with what you said. I went back and watched this episode a second time knowing what was shown in the promo and the interview teaser were not going to be taking place. Watching it with a more open mind, not expecting anything, the episode was much better than I originally thought. I agree with Vamp Lover when she said it would have been disappointing if Stefan had given into Katherine so quickly. However, it would have been much more interesting if Stefan had the opportunity to play mindgames with Katherine. That would have been fun to watch and an opportunity was missed. You are right that we are only halfway through the season and there is so much more that will be going after the winter hiatus. The TVD cast are amazing and as a fan, I am a little ashamed that I blasted this episode so unfairly. This taught me a lesson not to put so much emphasis on a promo, but just to be intrigued by it.

Love the Elijah character. If he is being honest with Elena and just wants Klaus dead and could care less about the curse of the wolves. Then why did he want Luka’s dad to get the moonstone? Just another question…or did I miss something? lol

Hi Eve- My guess is the moonstone can be uses as a weapon of sorts, or it can be used to “control” the wolves maybe…or he could’ve wanted Jonas to get the moonstone to make double damn sure the curse was never broken…I totally agree with you, Elijah is one hell of a character, he’s keeping me guessing and that’s always a good thing:)  (Quote)

Thanks VampLover. I’ve liked Elijah since his first appearance on the show. You are right. He does keep us guessing. lol

Watching the finale, I could not help but being a bit dissapointed as well. Over here in Holland we get to watch the show on the internet the day after, so the expectation was very hich for me. Also I don’t care about Rose, find her anoying and too much crying..brrt!
But did anyone think ( like I did ) that Bonnie said to Elena: It’s for the best Nina??? it surely sounded like it..if so they must be overworked or something. Did like the Damon/Alaric and Caroline/ Tyler thouch

oh my god. i really didnt enjoy the pain of tyler’s transformation. i was literally beggining to tear up when i saw tyler’s literally in tears and his bones breaking.

and then katherine. yes, i love the fact that shes finally gonna die. i mean, i feel bad for her though. but she actually deserves it…

i have so many things to say for this episode..oh yea! totally forgot about rose..that bite..wow. hope she makes..
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