Thank you so much eve and rehabber for sharing!  It made me feel good to know that I am not the only “older” fan – now I’m going to say it – I am 68.  I live and die by TVD and fantasize about Damon all the time, and those fantasies are often X-rated.  It seems the older I get, the better the young men look! LOL! I also love Supernatural, Fringe, True Blood, Bedlam, The Walking Dead, Once Upon A Time - you can see how my tastes run.  Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with adding a little “spice” to your life, whatever your age!
 

I’m happy to hear that TVD appeals to such a wide age range but could we please get back to the episode discussion? 

Hi Diana, there´s nothing wrong about dreaming about Damon or Stefan or Eliljah …, no matter what age. The TVD actors do a great job. They don´t only look great, they deliver perfect performances week for week. Johnny Depp forms characters on movie sreens and does that once a year. They do it 18 hours a day, 30 months a year and don´t do it less perfect.
The harder times are the more people crave for distraction. And the TVD cast gives that perfectly.
I´m completely on your side with Ian´s performance at the end of  “The Descent”. It was unbelievable (Stefan´s fight against the compulsion when he had to feed on Elena was similar intense ) And if we think that they often do those scenes all day long, I can imagine that this is not only physically but especially mentally extremely exhausting.
That´s why I was so happy, that Damon wasn´t hit, pushed around or lectured in this episode (well Mikael almost killed him) He had great scenes and I loved them.

You have a point, but ultimately the majority of people are always going to judge irregardless of the situation that they are in. It’s just human nature. The fact that TVD is a television show and it deals with supernatural characters has limited relevance. It is still being watch by human beings who will judge according to their own standards. I watch the show and enjoy it and am willing to accept that supernatural beings should be given a moral margin, but I feel that there are certain lines that should not be crossed. For example, the bar scene in Ordinary people. Damon brings a girl for Stefan to drink from. Ok, that is a normal vampire behavior. Now, if Damon were to kill that girl after they fed, that to me would be unnessesary and wrong of him because of his changed character. He is considered a “good” vampire now so I would judge him in relation to that status. If Stefan on the other hand were to kill that girl, I would not pass the same judgment on him because he is considered a “bad” vampire now and randomly killing people should be expected. It would still upset me if he killed her, but I would accept it.

Moral discussions are healthy in the TVD environment because  the characters, like in the real world, are capable of good and evil. And because of that premise, we as viewers, will judge them accordingly.

Yeah, I know, some of my thoughts are not PC and dang these guys are younger than my sons.  But am having a ball with these shows.  I miss Smallville and Justin Hadley(Green Arrow and he was on Chuck last night), love both Winchester brothers and Misha(Castiel) is missed. Also watch Fringe, Being Human(both of them), Teen Wolf, White Collar and went to see In Time just because Matt Bomer was in it..Sigh.

I used to cry buckets with my first vampire love, Spike and now that is transferred to Damon.  He hurts or cries so do I and I think the most after The Descent was in The Return when Kat told him she never loved him it was always Stefan, the look on his face and that little sigh, had me bawling.  It is going to be hard for an ep to get better than The Descent for me, that was Emmy material.

i agree i dont think Delena are one sided and Damon is just responding to the fact Elena does feel more for him than perhaps she want to acknowledge .Even so i enjoy any scene with Delena whether she turns to him in a romantic way or not she is seeing him in a different light .I say just enjoy the  show and have faith in the writers .i love that they give equal time to Delena and Stelena .Elena is in alot of ways the reason Stefan has his brother back because from the beginning he responded to her kindkness and the fact she showed she cared about him .Please remember Elena has been through so much for someone so young .More than enough .As for Kat i think they are saving that as some sort of big reveal that she is ok .I do wish Elijah was back in the present .Sorry laney this isnt entirely directed at you .Just the part about it not being one sided .

Did you ever see the video I had posted of Stefan & Elena’s best moments? I had posted it under a response to Chelsey in a different article and made a comment for you to look as well, but didn’t know if you ever saw it. Let me know if you didn’t and I will post it for you again.

Yeah, because if you love your brother and you’ll do anything for him, it means you don’t love your gf enough? I don’t understand why people keep comparing love for family with romantic love?!!! It is not even legitimate. So DE is better because Damon obviously loves Elena more than Stefan. Hmmmm…that doesn’t reflect well on Damon, if you ask me. 

Hi wednesday75, I’ll look for it.  Thanks in advance!

@rehabber & shila- You both have excellent taste! Glad to know I’m in such great company! Oliver/Green Arrow. OMG!

Thank you :))

I think it’s very nice of you that you gave your mother the DVDs. I’m not an Ebeneezer Scrooge, I lend a lot of films to family and friends. But my TVD dvds! NO NO NO! I sit on them like a hen hatching her eggs. :))

Nice video, but after watching I fail to understand why Stelena fans are always crying about all the Delena scenes?  They don’t even want a hug or a dying kiss, please explain this to me. This whole video was kissing and yes I did enjoy it, love Paul’s smile, but come on give us Damon fans something.

I agree with you and I enjoy finding out more about other fans, if someone does not care enough to really sign up with a name other than guest, I am not sure how much of a fan they are.  It is very easy to scroll past anything not interesting.

Hi DianaPauline: You’re not wrong, and it’s ok….I’m 38 years old with two boys and have been watching TVD since the pilot aired. Since then, I’ve made it my personal mission to be home every Thursday and have all the housework done, the dogs walked, the kids fed, ect…. so I can sit down in peace and watch this show. It’s funny, because I became addicted the moment Damon came to Mystic Falls and gave us that fabulous “Hello Brother”:) Since then, it’s been all things TVD.

My personal favorite episode was The Descent: OMG, I was actually crying so hard I went through a box of tissues (yes, my kids thought I was insane, but that’s ok), my second personal favorite was The Sun Also Rises (once again, a box of tissues was in order), specifically when Elena was reading that letter from Uncle Daddy John and that long look between Damon & Elena- it was like she was taking stock of all she had lost:( And before my Stelena friends get mad at me: I also cried when Stefan broke up with Elena last season: Frankly, I hate it when either one of the Salvatore boys are upset….and I hate it when they fight:( Although, I kinda think Damon did the right thing by trying to knock some sense into Stefan this episode: Stand up and fight back Stefan, you are no slave!!!!!! 

All in all, I truly enjoy the spirited discussion that goes on here, I think it’s rather funny how we all eventually agree to disagree, or agree to agree:) Or change our minds after watching the episode for the fifth time….LOL:) Yes, that has been known to happen….I did it after watching this episode for the 4th time…..so, all in all, I think all of us are a little obsessed with this show. Is that a bad thing? Only for my dogs…they really wished I would pay them more attention instead of typing on the computer:)

Thank you so much VAMPLOVER1973 and rehabber for your replies to me about sharing on this site. And to all TVD fans I want to say that although Damon is my favorite I love Stefan too, and especially the two of them together as brothers. That’s it from me on ”Ordinary People”. Can’t wait for next week!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with spreading the love for the show, and to meet other similar fans. That is why there is an entire section dedicated to it in the forums: 

http://forums.vampire-diaries.net/viewforum.php?f=12

Since this thread is created for the reaction and discussion of Ordinary People, people come to this thread to, well…react to and discuss Ordinary People. 
I can understand why some would be frustrated by having to scroll through almost an entire page of off-topic posts before they can get to the actual topic. I hope that makes sense. 

This whole balance of nature thing buggs me. Obviously there were witches and werewolves before the vampires. Who defines this balance. You could find arguments against strong witches as well as against strong werewolves. If there were witches from the beginning of mankind, then there were good and bad ones. So who is actually the one who makes all the rules (as to Sheila)? Can a good vampire not be better than a witch that practices dark magic? – Maybe that´s a bit too philosophical at this place, but I was wondering …)

Damon and Elena’s “sweet pillow talk” was definitely a moment of understanding, trust and comfort in each others friendship.

Elena was reckless and blind in her love for Stefan because she never really knew him.  He hid so much about himself from her.  What is being shown right now regarding his personality is a part of who he is.  Personally, as much as I liked Lexi, she really did not help him.  Stefan never found balance in his nature once becoming a vampire.  It was either all in with the human blood thirst, or it was all bunny blood, guilt and self loathing.  Damon is the one that needs to help his brother find balance.  Stefan needs to learn to feed in moderation, but not kill and find balance in his life as a vampire.  I do not want to see Stefan go back to be guilt ridden and self loathing like he was before.  

Only a year has passed in Mystic Falls and Elena had just turned 17 when she met Stefan.   In reality they were only boyfriend and girlfriend for about 8-9 months considering he was gone for 2-3 months during the summer running with Klaus.  There is no doubt that Elena and Stefan’s relationship has changed forever.  Before she can ever make the decision to be with Stefan again, she needs to know who he is and love that part of him.  

There is no doubt Damon was reckless and blind in his love for Katherine.  The poor guy spent 145 years trying to release her from a tomb she wasn’t in, only to be told she never loved him once they finally came face to face.  Now that hurt!

The slow build in Damon and Elena’s friendship, which has allowed Elena to know exactly who Damon is because he does not hide who or what he is from her, I hope will be the basis for a strong relationship.  If anything, Damon keeps reminding Elena that he is not human, but he is a vampire.  If this relationship progresses past friendship, it will be Elena that makes the first move, not Damon even though he has made his choice.

Rebekah had a valid point when she told Elena that she knows exactly who Stefan is and that a vampire should not be involved with a human.  At some point Elena will have to realize how true that is and will have to make a decision to either stay human and move on with her life, or turn into a vampire.  This is a choice that cannot be made recklessly or blindly.
 

Right you are!! :)))

Thanks il_isek.  I didn’t understand about using the forums – as I said, I’m relatively new to this site.  Got it!

And that´s the point: Damon should be there for Stefan now! Helps him,listens to him,be a real friend/brother to him. To Stefan,NOT Elena – she has to be on the second place in this situation!

I didn’t say anything about Damon loving Elena more than Stefan. The brothers may never admit that they love each other and that their bond is strong and unbreakable but we have seen time and again that they’ll always choose and save each other. As for my comment about Stefan loving Damon more then Elena was because alot of fans kept saying that Elena’s love will bring Stefan back.

We have also never seen a situation where Damon will have to between Stefan and Elena. Until then I will say DS is stronger than DE or SE…

Why does Damon and Elena’s friendship have to equate to Damon chasing after his brothers girlfriend? Why does his love for Elena means his love for Stefan mean nothing? In any case, didn’t Stefan break up with Elena, so why is she still considered his gf? What if Elena has to start dating like say Matt, will that be cheating on Stefan?

Loved this comment about Damon being a poster boy for a punching bag! That’s exactly what his been this season… And looking at Epi9 promo, he’s going to get beaten up by Tyler!