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Tonight it’s flashback time, wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey-ing back to World War II. While both Salvatores in uniform will no doubt be making fans everywhere feel a little light-headed, just as exciting is the return of the fabulous Lexi. Bring on the Damon and Lexi snark-off.

Once you’ve seen the episode and shaken yourself back to reality, swing by here to rate the new episode of The Vampire Diaries. All discussion about the episode is welcomed and encouraged in the comments of this post.

Remember, some parts of Canada watch the show an hour earlier, so beware of spoilers and avoid the comments if you haven’t seen the episode yet.

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  • Natalie

    Okay, I just thought I should write my personal opinion about the sire bond and its rules. It’s simple, there are no rules. Every sire bond is different and unique to itself. Why? Because every person’s feelings are different and unique, depending on the person who’s feeling them and on the relationship that the person had with her/his maker. So comparing Charlotte’s and Elena’s bond with Damon is pointless, simply because of the fact their relationship with Damon was completely different. Charlotte was obsessed with Damon, agreed with everything he said and wanted to make him happy no matter the cost. So what happened when she turned with his blood? All of that got magnified through the sire bond even more than it would naturally. So it’s no surprise that she took every Damon’s word literally and kept saying: “I thought you’d be happy” because that’s what she wanted as a human, to please him, to make him happy. It all falls under the description of her obsession with him. 
    Now let’s look at Elena. Her relationship with Damon before she turned was based on friendship, understanding and trust. She definitely had romantic feelings for him but never had the courage or will to act on them as long as she still loved Stefan. As a vampire, all of that was magnified but even more so because of the sire bond. She trusted him  and understood him more. But only because all of that was already there, all of that is what caused the sire bond in the first place-her HUMAN feelings. But, and this is a huge but, Elena is not inclined to do EVERYTHING Damon tells her to do. If we look back there are plenty of moments where she disobeyed Damon: attacking him to save Matt, not drinking that girl’s blood at college, wanting to go after Connor and attacking Damon when he wouldn’t let her, not wanting to call Stefan after Damon suggests it multiple times…So far those are all that I remember. So some of you might call those plot holes but since JP said how they planned this storyline since 3×06 and Tyler’s sire bond story, I’m pretty sure that’s not the case. I think the point is to show that Elena still has her free will and that the sire bond between vampires is completely different from the one between hybrids. It makes perfect sense since even the basis is different. It all goes back to who Elena was as a human. In her core, we know there’s one thing that stands out among her trades. She wants to make her OWN choices. So the only time Elena listens to Damon is when deep down she believes he’s right. Example: drinking from humans, Elena says to Damon: “When you tell me what a vampire should be, deep down I believe you. I think that you’re right” hence her not being able to stomach any kind of blood except from the vein. Her sentence is followed by “and I hate that feeling” which implies that human Elena would run away from those feelings as fast as she could, but vampire Elena can’t. So we can debate that it’s still a violation of her free will, but from where I stand I think what this sire bond is allowing her to do is to admit her feelings and embrace them instead of constantly repressing them because it doesn’t fit her moral standards. Ironically, the sire bond freed her. It’s kind of brilliant. Now, I’m not saying this is a good thing and they should just have to live with it; it definitely needs to be broken because it puts Damon and everyone else in a position where they have to question her actions all the time. But I refuse to believe that the sire bond turned her into a different person. If anything, it made it easier for the real Elena to resurface. The one who’s not afraid or guilt-tripped to live her life as a vampire, to explore her feelings for Damon no matter how much they confuse her, to let go of the past and start thinking of the future. I think this is definitely gonna be explored more in future episodes and I for one can’t wait.

  • delenafan

     Thank you Raven :-)!
    I am pretty sure Elena loves Damon for good and very passionately so. She always did!

    From the new trailer for next episode when Damon says to her:”I wanna throw you back in my bed and never let you leave” and Elena saying, daring him at the same time “the do it!” This is more than epic love people, this is deep, passionate, undying love!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jenay-Carriere/100002958378724 Jenay Carriere

    I really like your comment maybe next time break it up a bit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E5S2Y7H2HJE3A5JXS6UBPX26CY Shannon

    Omg, that woulda killed me if it was.

  • nightmagic

    i loved everything about this ep !!! the flashbacks however for once i didnt like Lexie as much nor Caroline but im glad Stefan apologized to Damon and told caroline he thinks Damon loves Elena as much as he does .love all the cute Delena scenes !!!!!!

  • nightmagic

     im choosing to have faith in julie and what she said at wetpaint.com .but i loved everything you said and agree

  • Holly_kirsten

    I think that there is going to be a lot more to this Sire bond than most people think.  Because all we know about them are based on WOLF sire bonds.  Could it possibly be that a VAMPIRE sire bond could affect her feelings as well?  We already know there is one difference between the two bonds (wolfs can break theirs by turning till they don’t feel gratatude anymore and there is no way to break a vampire bond that we know of) Yes Damon could tell her to move on but in 20 years couldn’t he come back and tell her to be with him again and she would have to.  If the bond has no affects on her feelings why does he have to “order” those feelings away for the bond to be broken? Isn’t that affecting how she feels?

  • Nelly

    I think Elena seems to be rather brainwashed than freed. I can accept that you have tried to explain into every little moment and decision that she never been herself really.
    But if you really think that than you have to see now that this behaviour isn’t normal.

  • shila1307

    Didn’t I send you the link last week? I have twitter. Its the same name. But you can also Skypechat with me, if you have Skype. Also here the same name. Just chose which method you prefer and send me “Anfrage”.
    Yeah all this speculation and in the end it might be something completely different. LOLI’m also pondering ab Tyler, is he a descendant of the Original werewolves that were slaughtered by Mikael? How are they planning to take Klaus down, they neither have a witch for it nor the ultimate weapon used by Alaric. I’m very impatient already and hope it is friday soon. But Friday will be very sad…”There will be mass casualties including someone we have known since season 1″

  • shila1307

    You know Caroline, she’s my girl, but even I found her very annoying in the last two episodes. And I didn’t like Miss Lexi in the flashback either.
    And the Shane/Silas/sacrifice/number 12 and 5 stuff is most interesting. It gives me the collywobbles. Now I have one dream and that would be for the case that Shane is not Silas (in 5%), bc I am 95% positive that he is Silas. It would be cool if they casted RALPH FIENNES AS SILAS (you know the actor who played Voldemort in Harry Potter). Well a girl can dream… :)

  • shila1307

    One would think that Bonnie prefers the aneurysm on all of them like she used to do. Isn’t it? And it would have been more effective, but it looked like she was struggling with her strength and is still weak :)
    I think I watched the episode 3 times and two times in double feature with episode 7.

  • shila1307

    But to lock him up they need a witch first. Abby locked and dessicated Mikael and you remember season 3 when they did the same magic on Klaus through Bonnie.

  • Kiki

     yep that’s what I thought. I’m sure the wolfsirebond is different from the vampire sirebond. It would be boring if you can break it easily. I’m sure there will be a lot of witchy spells and stuff like that.
    And since the show is about a triangle I’m sure the vampiresirebond effects feelings, too. That’s in my opinion the only way to bring the triangle back to Stelena one day and we all know this will happen during the next 2,5 seasons

  • BlackAngel

    yes. Damon accepts Elena: vampire or human. his love and acceptance of her is unconditional. can’t say the same about Stephan. he wants to fix her and make her back into the girl he loves. 

  • Kiki

     I’m not sure how much Tyler knows about Klaus and the rules to kill him. Maybe he thinks 12 hybrids are enought to take him down. But for sure he knows that he will die if he kills Klaus so I’m sure he’s not going to kill him.

  • ihatepeople

    Which is funny don’t you think since he was all about her choices to the point he allowed her to drown. Now her choices and behavior is wrong because they don’t go with what Stefan thinks she should be doing? Can you say true colors?

  • BlackAngel

    he didn’t order her, he pleaded with her. if the sire bond thing is legit (still skeptical) then she agreed so as to make him happy. she does feel guilt about Stephan. i’m hoping the guilt eventually fades though. DELENA rocks!

  • BlackAngel

    then again, if the sire bond thing is legit (still skeptical) she told caroline not to tell because damon told her he shouldn’t be told…yet. bsides, it’s none of Caroline’s business. she should stay out of their affairs and mind hers (which by the way, need her minding a lot ryt now).

  • BlackAngel

    when Elena drank out of the blood bag and Damon was so disappointed, it was heart wrenching. such a big contrast from his happy morning face. i felt like he needed a hug.

  • BlackAngel

    Damon is the 1 who truly loves Elena (unchanging, unwavering love and acceptance). he accepts and loves her as a person and vampire. Stephan needs to fix her. 
    To break the sire bond, Damon has to break up with Elena, push her away and leave her. How the heck! does Stephan figure that as being fair?! it’ll hurt her, it’ll hurt his brother and the only 1 that’ll be satisfied is him. selfish much! 

  • BlackAngel

    because Damon is a dynamic character (you start with this hardhearted bad ass then move to …) but Stephan is quite static (righteous vampire who seeks redemption and doesn’t like to feed on human blood). sure his character goes back and forth (good and evil) but it always sticks to that theme (he’s evil then he wants redemption). doesn’t pike any real gist his way. 

  • BlackAngel

    the sire bond is not what magnifies the emotions. it plays no part in the way a person feels. it’s their turning into a vampire that magnifies the emotions. nevertheless, if her emotions were magnified, her feelings for stephan must also have been magnified but somehow, more for damon than stephan. probably because she had stronger feelings for damon in the first place but wouldn’t admit to it

  • http://twitter.com/JillyBean1217 Jill Hansen

    My only complaint is, stop with the endless Stephan and Caroline chatter while I am trying to watch Delena scenes!

  • Lucy237

    sorry folks – don’t like the can’t think for myself Elena or the too nice guy Damon.

  • http://twitter.com/nblover Jayne

    Amazing episode, loved it.  This season has exceeded all the other seasons, its sexier, its hotter, its got more……its just got better & better 

  • Lynettemaxwell

    Please can we have some more of Damon & Elena, let us enjoy them! I really hope we don’t have Damon making a heart breaking decision just before the 5 week hiatus !!

  • Cherrie

    And your point is?? 

  • DontNeedAUsername

    Yeah lol

  • DontNeedAUsername

    That’s the POINT of sarcasm.

  • DontNeedAUsername

    Exactly :)

  • DontNeedAUsername

    True but that’s the thing he didn’t order her he asked her not to. Which still makes the sire bond thing sound dumb. I’m sure she wants Damon happy either way so that’s heightened. She feels guilt indeed so idk why some people on here say she wasn’t like she’s evil or something lol. I’m hoping he can insure her and still keep her.

  • DontNeedAUsername

    It’s been made

  • DontNeedAUsername

    True but he didn’t ask he pleaded and either way Elena wouldn’t tell Caroline simply cause of her big mouth. It seems like tbh. This whole site thing is dumb to me cause f the things they “link” Elena being sired too. Elena already felt the same way about ya know what I mean?

  • http://twitter.com/debz1941 debz clarke

    caroline is turning into a right snitch and i dont think i like her anymore….even after hugging she snides to stefan about damon.  . episode was awesome tho.  loving every min.   bit scared about whose going to die in mid season finale tho….  hope its caroline… boooo

  • 8Dana8

     Stelena wishes… Haha.

  • ihatepeople

    Agreed. Why would the witch say human feelings were required before the person turned in order to be sired and people think that it was the siring that created the feelings. That doesn’t even make sense.

  • Ktingen

    immature.

  • Kristendale26

    you’re happiness will be short lived im sure

  • Bayliff91

    are you 12 ? lol

  • Kaoticx

    Well sorry hun, but she is sired to him… no matter what you may think you know.



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