Posted by Crissy Calhoun | February 6, 2011, 20:53 (EST) | 94 Comments
Category: TV Series

The Vampire Diaries TV SeriesIf you asked a random person on the street, or a random TVD fan for that matter, to describe The Vampire Diaries, you’re not likely to hear anything along the lines of: “It’s a show that allows us to explore questions of morality, the meaning of trust, family and friendship, loyalty and duty, through the characters’ search for identity.” But Daddy Issues gives us all that, and a bubble bath, if you feel like diving in.

Truth or Consequences: Seems like everyone in Mystic Falls is having trust issues, and the consequences range from being a pariah (Uncle John) to nearly being killed (Caroline). Jenna finds out about Uncle Daddy John and is flabbergasted that he and Elena were capable of keeping that secret (while Alaric is noticeably quiet on the topic of secret-keeping…). Bonnie feels betrayed by the Witches Martin, and refuses to believe Jonas when he says Elijah will stay true to his word. There are trust issues galore between Uncle John and Elena, the brothers Salvatore, Jeremy, and . . . pretty much everyone else in Mystic Falls. The episode begins with Caroline facing the consequences of her lies to Tyler, and ends with her unwittingly being outed as a liar to Matt. Elena’s two for two in the “who can you trust” game: Elijah turns out to be an Original who keeps his promise and, judging by Uncle John’s trip to the tomb to see Katherine, Elena’s instinct not to believe a word he says is a good one.

And then there’s Tyler. Oh, Tyler. Both Jules and Stefan try to convince him that their side is the side to join, but Tyler doesn’t seem capable of making up his mind. He’s left floundering between the werewolves he barely knows and his friends who’ve turned out to be vampires responsible for killing his uncle. Not an enviable position. The werewolf code espoused by Jules and Brady is an old-school “pack mentality”: protect your own above all others, be loyal to your kind, fulfill your duty, and know your enemy — in their case, every last vampire. When Brady looks at Caroline in the cage, he doesn’t see a teenage girl crying in pain and for mercy; like Giuseppe Salvatore and John Gilbert before him, he sees a vampire — an evil creature that deserves no pity, no kindness, no existence at all. There doesn’t seem to be any room in Jules and Brady’s werewolf way of life for Tyler’s mixed feelings about Caroline. It’s telling that from the time Tyler arrives with Stefan at the werewolf RV headquarters to the end of the (epic) battle, the only thing he says is “What the hell’s going on?” (Does Tyler even know about witches?) Stefan tells Jules that Tyler is free to make his own decisions, but ultimately it’s Tyler’s inaction that determines which side he’s on. Caroline feels so hurt and betrayed by Tyler just standing by, dumbstruck, while Jules holds a gun to her head, ready to kill her that she tells him he’s destroyed their friendship. Caroline directs him to return to the pack, and he does. This turning point for Tyler reminded me of something Stefan said to Damon in The Return: how we respond will define us. So often on TVD, characters’ actions in a crisis help define them, and it was hard to watch Tyler falter and make what was, from my perspective, the wrong choice.

With no family left save for his mother, it will be interesting to see if Tyler takes up with the wolves as his new family, or if he fights for Caroline’s friendship and chooses his life in Mystic Falls. He’s a guy so unsure of who he is that he could really go either way.

Be a Better Man: Like Tyler, Damon is in the midst of an identity crisis, going a little crazy as he tries to be both the man Elena wants him to be and the killer he feels he truly is. Clueless that he’s killing again, Elena wholeheartedly believes in Damon’s ability to be “the better man” she keeps urging him to be, and Damon is very aware of his “character arc” (like in his hilarious hero’s haircut quip to Stefan) but he doesn’t trust himself. He briefly flirts with the idea of staving off temptation (by not flirting back with Andie Star, Channel 9 News) but just a few short scenes later, he’s in the tub . . . indulging. Has Damon’s love for Elena changed him as Andie suggests? Or will he always give in to his bloodlust? Just a wild guess, but I don’t think he can keep up the double life — helpful Salvatore brother by day, lady killer by night — that he’s living now. (Dude really needs to start watching Dexter.) In the meantime, it’s fascinating to watch and such a nice change of pace to have such a traditionally vampiric scene (fangs + a river of blood) on the show.

On the flip side of the coin from Damon is Uncle John, who’s trying to convince Elena and co. that he is a better man than when last we met him. That he’s seen the error of his past mistakes, that he had lost his way after losing his brother. And man, I almost believe him. His character is wonderfully complicated: watching his family reject him again and again made him pitiable, but Jenna, Jeremy, Elena, and the brothers Salvatore each have good reason to be wary of him. While I do think he’s being truthful when he says he’ll try to protect Elena, I think his actions will be directed by his warped Uncle John version of right and wrong. Blood relation doesn’t mean “family” to Elena, and she’s fiercely protective of her memory of her parents, of them as her only and real parents. (In this episode with John, as she was when she met Isobel.) Though the last thing she needs is something more to deal with, at least Elena can handle the Uncle John situation with the support of her family and friends, the ones she knows she can trust — Jenna and Jeremy, Bonnie, Matt, and Caroline, Damon and Stefan.

Though he’s struggled in the past with the monster inside him (and he’s sure to face that demon again), Stefan has found a way to be the “better man” and not just pretend to be. He acts as the peacemaker with Tyler and the werewolves, he’s there for Elena as she deals with her daddy issues, and he knows that no matter how strong and resilient Caroline is, what she needs is her best friends in the world around her. Stefan knows that’s what you do — you help your friend.

Compelling Moment: The Caroline-Bonnie-Elena hug. (If you ever want to make me cry, just play that scene.)

The Rules: Jules says her ability to detect a lie is one of her “wolf tricks.” Jonas is capable of taking down specific individuals and leaving others safe from the brain-pain spell. Uncle John (via Isobel) says that the way to kill an Original is to stab a dagger coated in the ash of a white oak tree into his heart (…or her heart — if there are any Lady Originals?).

Foggy Moments:

  • Carol Lockwood is officially the mayor? No election, no nothing?
  • How is it possible that Nina looks awesome with hair up or down, curly or straight, present day or 1860s styles?
  • So, is Uncle John cool with Katherine having chopped off his fingers and stabbed him in the gut? That was the last time these two hung out, right? Katherine didn’t seem the slightest bit worried he’d retaliate (given her vulnerable state trapped in the tomb and starving), nor did he seem concerned she might go for his jugular.

 
Other thoughts & questions before Crying Wolf (EP214):

  • “How is it even possible to keep a secret like that?” Oh Jenna, just you wait.
  • The werewolves were well prepared to take out vampires: wooden bullets, vervain-filled water guns (it’s a little frightening, how good the writers are at coming up with methods of torture), blowtorches, stakes. How did they manage to get so much info on vamps’ weaknesses without the vampires knowing they exist and in such large numbers? Does Katherine know about this gang of werewolves — was she exaggerating the rarity of lycanthropes to Stefan in Memory Lane?
  • Mason was clearly not living by werewolf rules: he was in love with a vampire, he took off to Mystic Falls to find the moonstone for Katherine, and he kept all that a secret from Jules and Brady. I’m curious to find out what the pack thinks of Mason’s “betrayal,” should they ever find out the elder Lockwood wolf had a little vampire friend of his own.
  • John tells Damon that if Isobel accomplishes what she’s trying to do Klaus will never come to Mystic Falls. What is Isobel up to? What sort of unholy alliance do Uncle John, Isobel, and Katherine have, and what’s their endgame?

 
What did you think of Daddy Issues? Do you love to hate Jules and Brady as much as I do? Do you trust a word Uncle John says? Should we start a petition to the writers to never-ever-ever have Caroline shot in the head or in any other way harmed ever again? (I’m sure it would only encourage them.) Sound off below with your heartfelt comments, wild theories, and bold predictions!

 

Crissy Calhoun is the author of Love You to Death: The Unofficial Companion to The Vampire Diaries and is writing a follow-up book that covers season 2 (due out in September 2011). When not obsessively re-watching CW shows, she works as managing editor at ECW Press in Toronto. She blogs on TVD, Gossip Girl, and other random things at crissycalhoun.com and tweets @crissycalhoun.

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  • Suchtie.

    As far as I can tell, we don’t have to worry about our favourite TV show cancelled. To the contrary of (the german) pro7 I read somewhere that TVD is one of / the most popular TV shows on THE CW.

  • Anonymous

    At the beginning of the show it was stated in an interview with either Kevin or Julie, or both, that Damon was 168 years old and had been a vampire for 145 years. Ian had also said the same thing in his early interviews. Keep in mind that was at the beginning of the series. That would make Damon being turned at age 23. Stefan was 17 when turned, add 145 years that makes him total 162 years. I am going by what was first introduced when I say Damon was 23 when he turned.

  • ILND

    Nina look amazing always. Shes most beautiful women on earth.

  • AnnaGrace

    I’m a “crying on the inside” kind of girl and no matter how opinionated I am about an episode, I don’t normally share it on the internet. But I have to say this episode brought me to tears! Something about Stephan’s sensitivity to Caroline with bringing her girls to console her was so moving! It was really hard to watch the scenes where Caroline was being tortured too. I love this show in a way I have never loved television and am truly in aw of the writers, directors, and actors/actresses that make it all possible! Well, that’s all I wanted to say.
    P.S.
    I really enjoy reading everyone’s comments and speculations each week!

  • Anonymous

    Ok Eve,
    Now we have to agree to disagree, which is fun… :)

    I do remember the flashback episode with Damon showing respect to the host, George Lockwood, and in turn being “put down”. George Lockwood came across as an ass and an elitist, much like his present day ancestors have done. You do recall Tyler’s attitude towards Vicki Donovan and not letting her enter the Lockwood mansion through the front door. Damon did fight for the civilians of Mystic Falls, as he was in uniform for the confederacy when he returned from battle on leave, but then failed to return to battle after falling in love with Katherine. This added to the conflict with his father and rather than sad after George Lockwood’s remarks, I thought Damon looked more irritated at the guy. As far as not getting respect, Damon could truly care less about that. Damon did not want to be transitioned without Katherine and made it clear to Stefan that he wanted to die. In the episode The Descent Damon revealed what he misses most in the world is being human. I do not feel that being a Vampire made Damon feel the need for respect or power. There was nothing that I could see in either of the brother’s past that would make me think either one of them was less kind, caring, sweet or innocent than the other. Damon was more independent than Stefan. Damon was very opinionated and his father did not like that. What did come across was that Stefan was the favorite child.

    The Vampire nature does not coincide with either of the brother’s human nature. Damon admitted he was lost. He wants to be good, but has convinced himself he is not. Therefore he feels unworthy of Elena.

    I will never be sold on the idea one brother is good and the other is bad. Damon gets used and abused by the people he cares for. This is blatantly obvious by what has transpired on the series so far. When Damon cares, his wall comes tumbling down. Damon uses his wit and snarkiness as his defense. Perhaps early on, Stefan had guidance in dealing with his vampire instincts and Damon did not. As viewers, the whole story has not yet been told.

    As for Caroline and Stefan’s scenes, I do not equate them at all with Bonnie or any other cast member. I know Stefan wants to be everyone’s friend. In my opinion the scenes between Caroline and Stefan have a little more spark and magic between them. For me as a 100% Damon fan, not a Damon/Elena fan, I find Stefan more interesting when he has scenes with Caroline. As for who Elena ends up with, who knows. The series was promoted as a triangle between Damon, Elena and Stefan and that has not happened yet. That is what gave the show its bite and made me want to watch it. A human girl torn between two vampire brothers. Actually, if Elena was smart she would go back to Matty Blue Eyes and leave the vampires alone. :)

  • Heather

    umm, definitely would sign a petition to get caroline never shot at again
    stefan was soo sweet in this episode, cant wait to see their romantic trip
    damon shirtless-yuuummm

  • Anonymous

    HI Suchtie- Brady & Jewels know about the moonstone, they just didn’t know Mason was after it, nor that he had it, nor that he was involved with Katherine. According to the “Sun and Moon” curse mythology we have so far, if a werewolf breaks the curse first, they no longer have to turn, or can turn whenever they want. But the vamps would still burn in the sun. If a vampire breaks the curse first, the wolves are stuck turning every full moon whether they want to or not. I don’t think Mason would be much help with any of this, I think Katherine is the one with all the answers. Let’s face it, she’s gone to a lot of trouble to get the moonstone back.

  • Anonymous

    HI Iansfan:) I have to disagree, to an extent.Stefan didn’t always quarrel with being a vampire. After he turned, he thought it was awesome. As a matter of fact, he liked it so much, he pretty much made sure that Damon would turn to, even though Damon didn’t want to. Let’s not forget, the sole purpose for Damon drinking Katherine’s blood was so they could be together. Damon had no idea that she was planning on turning Stefan as well until after they both woke up from being “killed”.

    I heartily agree with you on his situation now. You’re right, Damon knows that caring about Elena and the town of Mystic Falls (as well as the people in it) is going to break down whatever walls he’s built to protect himself. I also agree that Damon believes the only person he can count on is himself, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t love his brother. Before Katherine came along, those two had a strong brotherly bond. Part of me keeps hoping they will manage to get it back…and I think they have to an extent:)

  • Anonymous

    Maybe, but Damon didn’t mention Elena by name….he just said he was in love with a woman he can never have……

  • Anonymous

    Thanks GP- that’s what I thought. So, this would mean that Damon doesn’t run around feeding and killing while he feeds….as a matter of fact, didn’t he introduce us the the “snatch, feed, erase”? Just pointing this out.

    You’re right the blood supply is gone…looks like somebody is going to have to go and rob some more blood banks:)

  • Anonymous

    LOL- I don’t know GP, if he would compel you not to feel pain, you wouldn’t want to be in a bubble bath with him while he’s nibbling on your neck? LOL:) I don’t think the female residents would revolt, they may line up at his door, but revolt? LOL:)

  • Anonymous

    Disagree, Damon compelled Andie not to be afraid. He hasn’t yet compelled her to forget the feeding:)

  • Mia

    Personally the action scene fell a little short for me until Jonas showed up…..otherwise though, it was an amazing episode for character development….especially between Elena and Uncle John….and for the eyes of teenage girls everywhere (who did not put the opening half of the tub scene on repeat for five minutes? Anyone? I think not XD)

    …..I’m surprised as far as music went. Usually I would think playing the same song not even as a motif in two episodes of a series (especially only a season apart) is a huge taboo (Only One by Alex Band). They did make up for it though by throwing Ryan Star into the mix <3

    Ian finally stopped doing the crazy eye thing! Guess it was the pneumonia XDD

    I really hope they bring Isobel back, it would be interesting to have her tell some of this story than just relay from Uncle John….

  • eve

    Hi Georgia Peach, you brought up a great point…Damon is angry about missing being human. Well now with Stefan and Elena and, “the talk”. Now I’m wondering how Stefan is going to deal with it. Will he be hurt/angry… that because he is a Vampire and his love is human. Where could it go…his forever and her forever are completely different. As for Damon I now know(because of last episode) that the reason he is so angry is because he wishes he was human. I agree that we can agree to disagree on…when Damon was human he did not get the respect/love from those he cared for the most…Katherine and his father. As for George, I do remember that Damon was a soldier and left because of Katherine. I just thought the look on his face after his toast for that idiot was a look of sadness and embarrassment. It (to me) seemed as though Damon genuinely wanted respect/approval from people. Now that he’s a Vampire he tries to be the person that everyone likes/loves and obviously it is hard for him and does he really want too. As for Caroline…I’m sticking to what I said…Stefan is nice to anyone who needs help or is his friend. LOL Love this show and Love how we can all leave our comments on THE GREATEST SITE on the net!!! Thank you Vee and Red for working so hard to make it possible for us to do this.

  • Anonymous

    YES! Damon, typically, does the snatch, feed, erase….. not kill for his blood desire. This was brought up in a conversation early on with Stefan. He was trying to get Stefan to feed properly and get off the bunny blood.

  • Anonymous

    Hi Vamp Lover,
    I would break line and rush to the front. Once in I would never give up my spot in his bloody bubble bath or his bed. I would be such a slut, but I would be a happy one. I digress!

  • Anonymous

    I am also very glad they are not following the books.

  • Ginie

    I haven’t read thorough the comments. I just finished watching it again and did Uncle John just walked into the tomb? It looked that way. So I have 2 questions. 1. Can he be a vampire? (If yes, wouldn’t have Damon figured that out? I mean they surely can feel these vibes. 2. Isn’t he afraid of the great and HUNGRY Kat? :)

  • black calla

    Hello fellow VD lovers!
    I am a bit like Anna Grace, in that normally I just watch, and re-watch all the great episodes and then ponder more or less on my own…although now that I’ve hooked my sister, her husband, and my husband, there’s plenty of speculation going on!
    So, while this is unusual for me to post something here, you can all be assured I check this site (amazing job by the way, and Chrissy, awesome recaps every week!) all the time, and feel like I’m getting to know some of the more active participants.
    Anyways, I just wanted to say that I have back and forth struggles with the good and bad element of this show. Always having loved the bad boys at school from an early age, my natural leaning right from the start was Damon. His good looks, style and charm, and unflinching ability to listen to Taylor Swift LOL got me hook, line and sinker. His attitude and yes, reprehensible acts (if you look at it with our human eyes) still drew me to him. But, he IS a vampire, and it is nature to feed on people. That part really doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is that if he ever were to be with Elena, he would have to change, and don’t we all know that you should never try to change for anyone because then they don’t really love you, but who you potentially could become? Just some thoughts on Stefan too; he was from the start a more easy-going, amenable young man, and though he had problems initially as a vampire, he quickly found that it wasn’t his true nature, which more peaceable. I like Stefan’s character as well, but somehow he doesn’t give me the same charge as Damon, just because you can pretty much feel his innate goodness, even though sometimes he seems to be a little selfish, etc.
    Writing from the West Coast, so it is bed-time for me now!
    Goodnight!

  • Lisa
  • Sydney

    As you say, he ate several campers and a small posse of townies in season 1. But if we’re talking about his moral journey as compared to his bro, I’m counting his other not-strictly-necessary kills too, i.e. the other convenience / strategic / boredom kills (Ms Gibbons, the boy in the alleyway when he was about to kill Lexi, Uncle Zach, Tanner). I also am thinking of Lexi and Vicki – neither of them directly threatened Damon, but they both came to a cruel and sticky end because of him. Caroline (human) nearly bought it as well several times!

    However, I was not attempting not to point out that Damon is innately bad and Stefan innately good. That’s clearly not the case (I’m sure we’re about to see some pretty gruesome background on Stefan, and Damon has displayed some beautiful moments of pure kindness and empathy). It’s just that Damon is still very much coming to terms with the concept of respect for human life, and Stefan is a bit further down the track.

    Anyway, the struggle is part of the whole premise of the show, so long may it live! (Or die!). Personally, I certainly don’t expect Damon to go on a Stefan diet, but like Georgia Peach, I’d feel happier if he stuck to blood bags. I’ll admit to icky conflicting feelings when I watched the part with the newsflash about poor “missing” Jessica in Daddy Issues….it’s weird crushing on a monster (this must be how Elena feels some days – with both brothers!)

  • Sydney

    Elena is clearly aware of her influence with Damon, and uses it to her advantage. But then if you were Elena, and you thought you might be able to save someone’s life because you had some sway with our somewhat unpredictable antihero, wouldn’t you use it? She has tried to stop him from killing Tyler, Caroline and Vicki, amongst others.

    I don’t think she has ever overstepped the friend boundary though – she hasn’t been implying a romantic relationship toward him. But it does seem as if things might be heating up between them, and she may have to rethink their whole interaction (esp if she finds out about his recent extracurricular/murderous antics).

  • Anonymous

    Hi Sydney- I wasn’t talking about Ms. Gibbons, who had been compelled to not let him in, when he was trying to rescue Stefan, Uncle Zach, (let’s face it, you lock a vamp in a cellar and not feed him, what do you expect him to do?) or Tanner (I remember watching this guy hoping one of our vamps would end his existence because he was such an ass- does that sound bad?)….Vicki was a pity turn, he thought her human life was miserable, but unfortunately, as a vampire, she couldn’t learn control. Poor Stefan had no choice when he killed her……the only kill Damon made that bothered me was Lexi….truth be told, it must have bothered Damon to because he stopped feeding on humans and started his blood bag diet. I was specifically talking about feeding…..

    As to Stefan, I wouldn’t worry. No matter what he’s done in his past, I’m sure that his back story will not bother anyone overmuch. This is simply because of his control now.

    I guess when you are writing a story about vampires, I expect some hiccups (I know, that sounds even worse) along the way. They should be tortured souls. They should have to fight the thirst, fight the hunger and the urge to kill. Because at the end of the day, it is in their nature and it is what they are. I don’t mind the feeding, because it’s what they are. The blood bag is ok, but it takes away from what a vampire truly is and the fight they have to make everyday to not kill.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm…Let’s face it. When Elena finds out that Damon is feeding on Andie Star, she’s going to give Damon hell. She wouldn’t be Elena if she didn’t:) But that being said, I can see why Damon needs someone to talk to. It’s not like he can tell his problems to anyone else. He has no friends that would understand. Elena would just tell him to “be the better man”, Stefan would stare at him in complete disappointment, and Alaric may go back into “vampire hunter” mode…..Just kidding, but you see what I mean? It’s not like he can confess his troubles to anyone who isn’t compelled.

  • Sydney

    Did you truly not feel for Jessica, or the innocent campers, or Vicki (I’m not sure she’d have picked the vamp life despite her angst, especially if she could foresee the likely outcome)?

    The feed / compel doesn’t really bother me that much, I have to say..as you said, they do need blood to survive and it doesn’t harm people in the long run (perhaps they feel a bit woozy the next day!).

    I’m not worried re: Stefan’s rep suffering in the next few episodes – I have to say I’m far more intrigued by Damon as a character anyway…I’m just not compelled like one funny person on here said earlier – I see the bad as well as the good ;)

    And I do get that they’re vampires…and we can’t apply our rules to them…but if Damon wants the love and respect of a human girl, perhaps he will have to embrace human morals again – who knows?

    Have a good night, am off to bed :)

  • Sas

    My theory about Jules and Brady is that they did not actually know Mason well, if at all. Jules was in Mason’s apartment, but it was never clear is she was there on invitation or if she had broken in to search for clues when Mason did not return. Perhaps she was tracking or spying. I don’t think Mason was hanging out with them as Katherine would not have approved, nor would Mason have wanted to listen to their “die vamp die” rhetoric.
    On Uncle Daddy John and Isobel, I think that Isobel knew about her family heritage and the doppleganger, which led her to her current line of work, and perhaps even led her to seek out turning so that she might be a more even match should she ever need to fight for her daughter, who she is well aware is the doppleganger. It seemed obvious last season that she has existed on the periphery, as has John, with access to Elena in some fashion her entire life. She always knew where she was and had access to her family. Isobel seemed interested in protecting Elena, both in the depths she was willing to sink to obtain a vampire eradicating device, and also in that she wanted Elena not to want any contact with her. If she is trying to stop Klaus through anthropological means with folklore and legends, then she would not want to be close to Elena, literally or physically. I feel like John, Isobel, and Katherine are an unholy triad, working together but each with their own agenda. Isobel may be trying to save her daughter, but John and Katherine remain malignant forces.

  • Sas

    My theory about Jules and Brady is that they did not actually know Mason well, if at all. Jules was in Mason’s apartment, but it was never clear is she was there on invitation or if she had broken in to search for clues when Mason did not return. Perhaps she was tracking or spying. I don’t think Mason was hanging out with them as Katherine would not have approved, nor would Mason have wanted to listen to their “die vamp die” rhetoric.
    On Uncle Daddy John and Isobel, I think that Isobel knew about her family heritage and the doppleganger, which led her to her current line of work, and perhaps even led her to seek out turning so that she might be a more even match should she ever need to fight for her daughter, who she is well aware is the doppleganger. It seemed obvious last season that she has existed on the periphery, as has John, with access to Elena in some fashion her entire life. She always knew where she was and had access to her family. Isobel seemed interested in protecting Elena, both in the depths she was willing to sink to obtain a vampire eradicating device, and also in that she wanted Elena not to want any contact with her. If she is trying to stop Klaus through anthropological means with folklore and legends, then she would not want to be close to Elena, literally or physically. I feel like John, Isobel, and Katherine are an unholy triad, working together but each with their own agenda. Isobel may be trying to save her daughter, but John and Katherine remain malignant forces.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to this great group of vampire lovers, your comments were very good and I agree with them..I also like the bad boys. Which is why Spike was my first vamp love.:) Damon has taken that place now, love the story and his struggle with who he is.

  • Anonymous

    Elena did tell Jer she was adopted, would have to go back for the ep, but it was done.

  • Anonymous

    You can pick it up on ebay for well under $20

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget Bree, Damon ripping out her heart without any emotion on his face was awesome..OK now that really did sound bad. lol

  • Anonymous

    Damon is using Andie as a chew toy like he did Caroline..

  • Farsia2010

    right, cause two can keep a secret if one of them is dead (quoting pll show) or in this case compelled or both.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I was wondering that also. I thought maybe it was just for show to Jonas at first, but then at the grill the same thing. I like it, but that was a big, fast jump.

  • Anonymous

    HI black calla- I wanted to second Rehabber and say welcome aboard:) Look forward to reading more of your comments in the future:)

  • Anonymous

    Yep, she did. The took a walk outside and she told him the whole story:)

  • Anonymous

    Ahh, this is true..but let’s face it, Bree’s actions put Elena in danger and also almost got Damon killed. He thought she was his friend but no such luck. She betrayed him…..does that warrant having your heart ripped out? IDK- but I know one thing, I wouldn’t be stupid enough to betray a vampire and then get caught:)

  • Anonymous

    Dear Lord, this is going to sound truly awful…but no. I didn’t care one way or the other for the campers, or Jessica for that matter. I just know that what I’m about to say is going to sound awful, but I looked at Tanner, Ms. Gibbons, the druggies, the campers & Jessica like cannon fodder. I had no emotional attachment to any of them one way or the other. Now Vicki was a bit different…I felt sorry for her. I didn’t like her, but I did feel sorry for her. How did I feel when Stefan had to kill her? I felt bad, but didn’t really miss her when she was gone:( Doesn’t that sound truly awful?

  • Anonymous

    LOL, you got that right, I would want to stay VERY good friends with a vamp.

  • ‘lil’ol’me

    i agree rehabber, damon and stefan are both vamps. ok, they both need blood. stefan goes for bambii and damon stays human. isnt that nomal vamp style – lexi and rose weren’t bad. but they stayed to blood bags which i think, if your going to empathise with the human blood drinkers, is the way to go. damon, so did not need to chew on andie. there’s a difference.

    however, this whole ‘damons the bad guy’ label isnt really acurate. (discluding jessica, cuz he was under emotion unstableness) when was the last time damon killed someone for the heck of it when he was conciously aware and “stable” (for want of a better word). seriously, he’s been trying so hard to change his ways, not just for elena but cuz he doesnt want to be the mindless killer anymore. im not trying to excuse him (well, maybe i am, cuz luv is blind :) but he is so not “the bad guy”. he’s DIFFERENT to stefan, yes. more reckless, yes. more vocal, yes. quicker to anger, yes. (unreasonable, uh, yes). but none of that necessarily makes him the “bad guy”. i luv damon.

    and the “elena touching him thingo” i dont think she’s doing to mess with his feelings or manipulate him. tell me she doesn’t have a “connection” with him. i think shes sorta unconciously (or conciously, whatever) exploring her “feelings” for him and expressing it, even if that means going against stefan.

    and stefan, he’s such a “good” guy, it’s getting a bit annoying. i mean he does great things (like the caroline sleepover – so sweet! -) but has anyone noticed he hasn’t really had any imput lately. he went and fetched john via isobel, but we dont see his emotions, or how he reacts to things as much as we do damon these days (and not saying i dont luv these new developments with damon – i eat them up) but stefan seems to be a little forgotten…
    i do also like this “friendship” with caroline. he’s being incredibly kind, and caring, and nice, (like stefan does) but i swear theres a little spark. the way they both (or maybe jus him) smile, and their expressions when they’re around each other. hmm, the more i think about it the more i think it’s one sided.

    i think the tyler situaton was bound to happen. he’s lost in the middle of this. i honestly thought caroline whould forgive him. but now he’s gone back to the wolves. he wont “kill” stefan, (duh). and in the end he’ll go back to, a truce or the like with the vamps. well, he’s not going to run off with jules anyhow.
    however, eating my words may be interesting :) well just have to wait and see :D

  • littlevamp

    I love this episode from beginning to end .Also loved all the Damon Elena scenes.

  • Silentlady

    Hello to all loyal TVD fans and especially to Crissy. I love your recapitulations, mostly the rules and fuggy moments. I follow all your posts and want sometimes made own comments but my English is bad so I don’t dare myself. Since the beginning of the series in Germany my interest follow a fever curve specially the lovely triangle Damon/Elena/Stefan.
    After my favourite ep decent the daddy issues seem a little calming.
    Yes, Caroline was tortured (badass Brady-hope he get this back), the wolves / vampire battle (here was one peak with Dr. Martin + poor Stefan /Damon) and the interconnections to John (this is low level in my opinion “who is John ;-)”) the ep had many informative scenes.
    My thoughts and this is why I post it now:
    OMG Damon gets his vampire mentality back.
    Big thanks to Julie and Kevin they do a great job to picture the contradiction between Damon’s nature, “will be” and his feeling for Elena. It’s so human.
    My questions for the coming ep what master plan has Katherine with John (who normally should hate her) and Isobel and why could John Kate not take out-she is only imprisoned in her mind.
    However, the next absolutely high lighted ep will come (maybe 215?)
    and I hope many, many more.Meanwhile I get hooked…

  • Sleathers97

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    What bothers me is that Damon saved her family linage but Stefan is the one that they all adore which is seen in with Boonie’s grandmother. Plus I still think Stefan’s bad side is worst than Damon’s, Stefan scares me with all of the secrets that he keeps and the half truths that he tells all of the time. But I do like his character with Caroline since she makes him smile.

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