Posted by Vee | May 22, 2010, 1:11 (EST) | 10 Comments
Category: TV Series

The Vampire Diaries TV SeriesThis tidbit is actually five days old but it’s a great nugget, so I’m blogging it now. In the May 17th edition of TV Guide Magazine’s Ask Matt column, a reader asks Matt Roush to address what she perceives as two glaring flaws in The Vampire Diaries: the “lack of kick-ass women” (she specifies that while many of the main female characters are strong emotionally, she wishes they were more physical, “ala Buffy”), and the glossing over of slavery and other social issues in the 1864 flashbacks.

I never expected the show to delve deeply into issues of race and sexuality as True Blood does so well, but it would be nice if the show at least acknowledged that there were other things going on besides vampire vs. human Mystic Falls conflicts.

Here’s part of Roush’s response:

I’m afraid I don’t take the show seriously enough to lament its lack of social/historical context. Where would they fit a lecture on the evils of slavery in a show churning this much juicy melodrama this busily? I suppose it would be interesting if some of the vampire revolt had to do with seeking vengeance against the mores and masters of the antebellum past, but it’s intriguing to me that characters like Bonnie and her grandmother (and their ancestors) nurture a supernatural power that seems to render them pretty “kick-ass.”

READ THE ENTIRE QUESTION AND ANSWER OVER AT TV GUIDE MAGAZINE.

Both of these topics have come up in our forums before, but on the heels of the season finale (oh, hey, Uncle John – you need an ice pack for that?) I thought I could bring it up in the blog. I have my own thoughts on both points (for starters, the idea that a “kick-ass woman” must be defined by her physical bravery, no matter how smart, savvy, or emotionally well-adjusted she is), but I’ll turn it over to you guys. Have your own thoughts on both issues? Agree/disagree with Roush’s reply?

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  • http://www.heroinetv.com heroine_tv

    I think there is so much more to be said about both these topics that the reader of TV Guide Mag brings up. Is it okay for a TV show to just ignore slavery when dealing with the Civil War, simply because the it is entertainment, “not to be taken seriously”? And why are people unsure whether The Vampire Diaries has strong female characters (other than the fact that they are mostly killed off)? Topics like these are why TV networks created Summer/ hiatus … ah, if only the quarter were over and I could devote my time to writing such essays this weekend.

  • rehabber

    I watch TV shows for entertainment and not to be PC. I get so tired of shows preaching to me, if I want that I would watch History channel. I mean do you REALLY believe there are Vampires? Can’t I just have a show that is FUN?

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  • GreenNotBlue

    I don’t see why a vampire show – even one set in VA – has to “fit in” anything about slavery. If anything, I think the fact that we all know about slavery and what happened during the Civil War informs our viewing and adds to the more overt tension in the show. It’s just another way of framing good vs. evil. But please no lectures! Also I think the chicks are kick ass even if they aren’t fighting – Aunt J sticks up for her fam, Elena’s not a weenie like certain other vampire series heroines, Bonnies a witch, I’m sure even Caroline can throw down when necessary. If you want Buffy, go watch your Buffy DVDs. I’m sticking with Team Damon.

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  • http://presephonegreen.com Persephone Green

    I think “PC” is hurled around as an epithet too often, usually as an excuse for privileged people to go on living in their bubbles without other people’s hurt spoiling their fantasy and ignoring the fact that those without privilege do not have the luxury of pretending discrimination and -isms never happened or happen.

    Since when is making entertainment historically accurate or morally sensitive a bad thing?

    I’m also waiting for a leading black female character with an unrepentant afro and dark brown skin to appear in any mainstream fantasy show or film, but I’m not holding my breath. This in no way reflects on the highly talented and beautiful Lawson and Graham; it’s just an observation.

    That being said, there are only 42 minutes per episode to move the plot along. I think there could have been an effort to make some of the tomb vampires ex-slaves and complicate the moral relativity in the show, but producers are so scared of confusing Americans that I doubt they’d do such a thing. Sad. Some of us are savvy, guys! We can take shades of gray!

    I think Bonnie has a ton of agency in this show. She comes off as the most powerful character in the series by the end of Episode 22, and she’s not afraid of anyone. The downside is that she’s not happy anymore, but hey. Elena is the only person capable of checking Damon. Caroline is a positive influence in people’s lives by episode fourteen.

    I don’t see physical strength as being the only indicator of agency, but if we’re going to make that claim, how do Katherine and Isabel manage to do the ass-kicking that they do? The argument holds no water for me.

  • Marissa

    Physical Strength in lead female roles: What average teen girl can break out the karate moves? TVD shows the difference between the strength of the Vampires against humans in the most realistic way.

    As for the issues of slavery: Parts of the story may be set in the Civil War era, but its not about the Civil War, or the real facts about that time. This era was big in the books too, and even LJS didn’t feel the need to go there, because the books weren’t about the actual civil war. If the show brings about an interest to the actual real history to certain individuals, great. Get off your butts, and go and do some research to satisfy your inner history buff needs. Entertainment should be entertainment, not a means to push moral values.

  • Dare5dev

    Wow!  What is with all the denial about slavery?  Why can’t a show who has black characters and has former slave owners talk about slavery?  It would be entertaining to me.  It is glaring to some people that the Civil War is mentioned and Slave owners are brought up over and over again but slaves are ignored.  It interferes with our enjoyment of the show.  It doesn’t have to be a lecture.  Just some sort of acknowledgment that slavery was part of the Civil War and a big part of a town that thinks that the 1800s was the best time ever.  If the show did not want to go there, it should not bring up the Civil war every two mins.  It just keeps reminding me about what the Civil War was about.  And what is with this recurring “diss” about the history channel.  What kind of bs is that?  When you see certain things, you expect other things to go with it.  For example, if you see a hospital, you expect to see doctors or nurses or orderlies in it.  If you look up into the sky during the day, you expect to see the sun or clouds.  Can you imagine a show about nurses without doctors?  Or vice versa?  So it goes with Civil War and slavery.  With former slave owners and slaves.  I think one of the above posters is correct.  It is a copout.  It is a way for people who like to pretend that slavery does not exist to erase that history from our collective consciousness.  Our entertainment is a huge part of our culture.  It is what we talk about a lot of the time.  What does it say about some people that they want to erase slavery form our stories/entertainment/culture?  Even when the Civil War and slave owners are part of said story?  I also find it curious that a lot of people are very sensitive to sexism on the show but (sometimes the same people) are fine with . . . being “racialist”(?)

  • Dare5dev

    Also, why do people think that it will be some “lecture” on morality if the show did go there?  Where is that idea coming from?  Is the vampire/human conflict on the show some “lecture” on morality?  Vampires murder and abuse humans.  And the humans murder vampires.  A lot of injustice there.  Where is the dreaded “lecture” on morality?  WTH?!  If you don’t want it, just say so.  This reasoning makes no sense to me.  It can be addressed in any number of way that could be entertaining.  For example, Bennett witches could try taking over the town/Council.  They should have a claim because their ancestors have been in Mystic Falls as long as the Founding Families or longer.  They are left out of the Council and powerful positions in town because of the town’s history of slavery.  This is already established on the show.  All the Founding Families are former plantation owners.  This is just one idea off the top of my head.  I am sure the writers could come up with others.  This show can use the conflicts that naturally arise from the history of Mystic Falls instead of introducing new characters all the time.  That would be entertaining to me because I was fascinated by Mystic Falls in the beginning.  Perhaps, there is this perception that only . . . people from a certain race (lol) are interested in these kinds of stories?  Sorry to disappoint some people out there but I am not black and I am very much interested.     

  • Susan

    I don’t understand why the idea that the past affects the present should
    be relegated to the library or to being PC. I mean, isn’t that THE POINT OF
    NARRATIVE? LOL.

    It also irritates me because I HATE when
    people say things like “it’s a guilty pleasure, it’s obviously not great TV”
    or “it’s just supposed to be entertaining!” What does that even mean?!
    How is interesting stuff not entertaining? How are themes not
    entertaining? Personally, I find a bunch of incoherent romance and pity
    party drama possibly the least entertaining thing on earth. And why
    shouldn’t TVD be “great TV”? Is there a law that “great TV” has to
    be….Idk, by HBO or oriented more toward men or something? I don’t
    think TVD is great, but that’s because the plotting and dialogue and
    character development have been shitty, not because it’s doomed to not
    be “great TV” by its genre or its network. *eye roll*

    I don’t get why the “entertaining” and “guilty
    pleasure” argument gets bandied around. Because TVD is a certain genre
    or geared toward a certain demo, it’s SUPPOSED to be shallow and
    incoherent? UGH. Is that just a lack of self esteem on the part of the
    fandom? I mean, I don’t think that just because a show is geared toward
    my age group or gender or involves personal/domestic concerns (as
    opposed to business ones) it should automatically be shallow and stupid.
    I think it can be great. Arrgh.