Posted by Crissy Calhoun | November 14, 2010, 12:04 (EST) | 98 Comments
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We’ve had a lot of new actors on TVD these past few weeks but it’s still Nina Dobrev at the heart of the show. Watching her act opposite herself, toss out various accents in scenes that span centuries (she’s Bulgarian, she’s English, she’s an American teen, she’s a croaking partially desiccated vampire!), and bring two very different characters to similar emotional places at the end of the episode — both Katherine and Elena mourn the danger they put their loved ones in — it’s been said before but it bears repeating: someone give this girl a raise, an Emmy, a high five, and a hug. We’re lucky to watch an actress so on top of her game week after week.

The Petrova Fire: I never imagined that there would be a situation where I would cheer for a girl hanging herself but trust The Vampire Diaries to make that kind of awful amazing. Katherine’s a fighter. She refused to let someone else decide her fate, and she did whatever she could to escape it — taking advantage of Trevor and Rose, killing herself, using Proto­–Ms. Gibbons as a shield and to feed on, and spending 500 years running from Klaus. “Better you die than I” is Katherine’s motto, and it’s that fierce sense of self-preservation that’s earned her the nickname “psychotic bitch.” But we also see that, just like Elena, Katherine cares deeply for her family; she lost everyone — her daughter, her parents, every other Petrova. Could she allow herself to truly love anyone again, knowing what their fate would be with Klaus’s taste for vengeance? Unlike Trevor and Rose, or Stefan and Damon, Katherine made the decision to survive alone but she isn’t completely heartless. With Katherine’s sorrow over her parents’ portrait, we see that what Rose says to Damon is true: that while the way to survive is not to care about anyone, there isn’t actually a switch a vampire can flip to stop feeling.

Katherine’s story, which Elena believes to be true, shows Elena the fate she faces — will she make the same choice Katherine did and value her own survival over others’? Like Stefan the Protector, Elena has always tried to protect her friends and family as best she could, often at the risk of endangering herself. But how can she do that in this situation? If she turns herself over to Klaus, Tyler and Caroline (or two other people) will die too in undoing the spell, and who knows what kind of chaos would result from a vampire-free-for-all. If she decides to run or turn into a vampire, her friends and family would suffer the same fate Katherine’s did. Though Katherine and Elena lament their fate at the end of Katerina, they share that Petrova fire — the unwillingness to give in to hopelessness. Contrast their can-do attitude with Rose, who has, since the 1490s, been crippled by the threat Klaus poses. Without Trevor, she’s crumbling, and while Damon has a certain amount of trust for her, she’s twice been willing to hand over a Petrova doppelganger in order to save her own life. While Rose did just lose her sole companion of half a millennium and the Originals are making their presence known by giving her a serious sunburn, I’m so accustomed to the keep-fighting spirit of our Mystic Falls gang that I found Rose’s multiple breakdowns off-putting. Hopefully the romp with Damon will help brighten her spirits.

So Many Ingredients: While we still don’t know how the Aztecs got their hands on Petrova blood to bind the curse, Katerina provided a lot of other information about how that pesky Sun and Moon curse works. If one half of it is broken, the other half is permanent — explaining why a vampire who already has the ability to walk in the sun would care about breaking it. If the werewolves break the moon curse and can shift at will, they are a mightier force against the vampires, the bulk of whom would still be confined indoors all day. Breaking the curse requires much more than just a moonstone and some doppelganger blood: Katherine reveals that you need a vampire, a werewolf, the Petrova doppelganger, the moonstone, and a witch to break the spell. Vampires are easy to come by, witches a little trickier, and werewolves a rarity. But a Petrova doppelganger makes an Original wait hundreds of years for her appearance. Both Slater (compelled by Elijah) and Katherine suggest that by destroying or deactivating the moonstone, the curse cannot be broken. Is that the answer to their predicament? (We should bear in mind that last season a mystical object was destroyed, but even without the crystal, Damon and company found a way into the tomb.)

A Solid Maybe: Legends, rumor, centuries-old secrets, and lies — in Katerina, the characters try to distinguish fact from fiction. Damon isn’t sure if Rose is trustworthy; Elena turns to a known liar for the truth; Caroline attempts to dupe Stefan into staying away from Elena, who doesn’t want him to know she’s turned to Katherine for help; there’s more to the Martin Family of Warlocks’ relocation to Mystic Falls than Bonnie or the rest of us know; and Slater is involuntarily made a liar by Elijah’s compulsion. And it’s in this atmosphere of duplicity that loyalty is the most highly valued quality, among both humans and vampires.

In a lot of ways, this episode felt like a set-up for what’s to follow: armed with a better understanding of what Klaus is after, what will Elena, her two protective Salvatore brothers, and the rest of the Mystic Falls Scoobies decide to do? One thing is certain: the stakes are higher for everyone than they’ve ever been before.

Compelling Moment: Bulgaria, 1490. The entire opening sequence was amazing — answering one of the series’ longstanding mysteries while delivering heartbreaking background on Katherine — but the briefly glimpsed relationship between Katerina and her mother was particularly moving.

The Rules: Rose says that a vampire’s ability to turn off his or her emotions doesn’t really exist, that after a few hundred years, you just fake it. (Which makes a lot of sense, since none of our vamps have been particularly convincing when they’re supposed to be devoid of emotion.) Elijah is a “special vampire” (he’s cagey about whether or not it’s his status as an Original which marks him as different) and he has the ability to compel another vampire. Caroline says Tyler also has the urge to kill people, which is interesting since there’s been no indication that humans are a primary food source for werewolves. Like vampires growing stronger with age, the Code of Friendship dictates that the older friendship (like Caroline’s with Elena) wins out over the newer one (Caroline’s with Stefan) when it comes to keeping or spilling secrets.

Foggy Moments:

  • Katerina got herself strung up on that beam and dead rather swiftly. I suppose rapid-fire noose-making skills, like the ability to whittle, is something we’ve lost over the generations.
  • So Elijah couldn’t compel Elena without first removing her vervain necklace, but he can compel a vampire? While that’s not strictly contradictory, it feels a bit uneven.

 
Other Thoughts and Questions before The Sacrifice (EP210):

  • Katerina’s mother was right: taking the baby away turned out to be better for the child. She survived Klaus’s vengeance.
  • Loved the contrast between the raw emotion of Katerina begging to just hold her daughter once and Katherine’s flip way of telling Elena about her past “shame.”
  • Does Luka know his father is working with Elijah?
  • Did anyone else’s heart melt when Stefan told Caroline she reminded him of Lexi? Their friendship is one of my favorite new pairings in season 2.
  • It seems a little counterproductive for Klaus to have Katerina’s entire family killed (without a Petrova line, there is no chance for another Petrova doppelganger) if he wants to break the curse. But if his interest in breaking the curse is what Slater says it is — to beat the werewolves from breaking it first — then by killing off the Petrovas, he believed he had prevented that from happening.
  • No one on The Vampire Diaries is completely evil: Elijah may take your head off for betraying him but he’s a generous supporter of the arts. That was a hundred dollar bill he dropped in the guitar case.
  • Jeremy took Bonnie’s preference for Luka over him very graciously. That boy really has grown up.
  • Katherine’s insistence that Klaus will show up felt like a promise that we’ll be seeing Klaus this season.
  • Elena finally figures out the real reason behind Katherine’s return to Mystic Falls. Stefan was right to believe there was more to it than Katherine’s affection for him.

 
As we wait patiently for December 2nd and The Sacrifice, we can show our thanks for such a great season so far by voting daily for the People’s Choice Awards And, as always, sound off below with your theories, opinions, and spoiler-free comments!

 
Crissy Calhoun is the author of Love You to Death: The Unofficial Companion to The Vampire Diaries. When not obsessively re-watching CW shows, she works as managing editor at ECW Press in Toronto. She blogs on TVD, Gossip Girl, and other random things she falls in love with at crissycalhoun.com and tweets @crissycalhoun.

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  • Mac

    Yeah, thank God for that, unless they were in the process of killing her before they could tell her to run….poor girl:(I was also wondering if the mental will of the vampire would come into question when an original compels another vampire…example: Damon is extremely strong willed….If he was compelled to, just as an example, harm Elena in some way, because he is so strong willed, I was wondering if it would be possible for him to fight through it…..he would be able to tell her to run, but just by the strength of his will alone, could he actually stop himself?Slater striked me as a little weak willed type vamp, as in not very strong….I was just wondering if there might be some light at the end of this rainbow, if you know what I mean:)  

    Well since you mention Damon harming Elena, and I have no basis for this, other than a little idea that sprung into my mind while watching the new promo.
    The scene where he has her pressed up against the wall and she’s shouting at him to let her go, I wondered is he compelled there? Usually when she’s quite matter of fact with Damon if he’s doing something she’s not happy with. She seems a bit frantic there, and he seems a bit… blank?

    Of course, it could just be she’s trying to run into something stupid and he’s not letting her?

    Anyway, if he was compelled I’d imagine he’d be strong willed enough to fight it a little bit, enough to tell her to run, or to tell her or someone else to stop him, knock him out or whatever.
    I wonder if it came down to power of will, how good Stefan would be? I know he’s strong willed in that he gave up the people blood for long enough, but the fact that he couldn’t control himself on it implies lack of will power.
    Either way I’d imagine someone will get compelled at some point, otherwise why show us that they’re capable of it.

  • Vamp Lover

    Yep, that’s what we’ve been told about it so far anyway.Given the time line I’ve no idea how the Aztec’s got their hands on a Petrova to sacrifice in the first place, but I’m sure it will be answered, most of the other things we’ve wondered about have come up in the show eventually.I think it’s still possible that the Aztec thing is just a legend, and the real thing actually happened elsewhere. Lots of different cultures have variations of the same legends, so it’s possible that the Aztec one just happened to be the one that Isobel came across in her research.  (Quote)

    That’s what I’ve pretty much deduced…for it to make any sense at all, it would have to be a “red herring” so to speak….or…..

    It stands to reason the sun part of the curse really isn’t a problem for vampires anymore (magic jewelery, heavily tinted windows on vehicles, tempered glass, ect..). However, if a werewolf can change whenever it wanted to, I can see why that would be a bit of a problem…but, to look at it from another angle….When Elijah through the money through the glass, it was at the point when Rose, Slater & Damon were talking about voiding the moonstone…he obviousley did not like this turn in the discussion. This is when I started thinking about Klaus, and the fact that the Originals have to come for the doppleganger, and at the end of the day, the moonstone. Which led me to start thinking, why would a vampire as old as Klaus really care one way or another about this supposed curse…unless it affected someone he loves, unless it affected in some way his mate. I don’t know, just a theory I’m working on.

  • Vamp Lover

    Well since you mention Damon harming Elena, and I have no basis for this, other than a little idea that sprung into my mind while watching the new promo.The scene where he has her pressed up against the wall and she’s shouting at him to let her go, I wondered is he compelled there? Usually when she’s quite matter of fact with Damon if he’s doing something she’s not happy with. She seems a bit frantic there, and he seems a bit… blank? Of course, it could just be she’s trying to run into something stupid and he’s not letting her? Anyway, if he was compelled I’d imagine he’d be strong willed enough to fight it a little bit, enough to tell her to run, or to tell her or someone else to stop him, knock him out or whatever.I wonder if it came down to power of will, how good Stefan would be? I know he’s strong willed in that he gave up the people blood for long enough, but the fact that he couldn’t control himself on it implies lack of will power.Either way I’d imagine someone will get compelled at some point, otherwise why show us that they’re capable of it.  (Quote)

    Yeah, that has me a little worried…I don’t think he’s compelled in the promo, he actually, to me, looks a little pissed….like he can’t believe that Elena is intentionally putting her life in danger.

    But that does bring up Stefan….if the writers don’t completely ignore last season’s story of Stefan’s problem with human blood, wouldn’t it be awful for an Original to get his hands on Stefan, compell him to drink lots of human blood and turn him loose on the poor citizens of Mystic Falls??? That would be a sure fired way of dividing the ranks.

  • Annie

    Another amazing recap Crissy. Loved it as I do the rest.
    I truly enjoyed this episode I must admit and I was super impressed at all the different accents that Nina Dobrev was throwing out there. She has really shown her talent and definitely deserves some sort of reward for that. I also think it was truly satisfying that we finally got some back story into Katherines past it was much over due! I liked that Rose and Trevor were still there and I also thought it was interesting at the cabin that a human who was only just turned into a vampire so readily killed that woman. I understand that she was protecting herself as always but it would be interesting to know more of her personality as a human so that maybe we would be able to better understand her.As with Klaus that was really interesting with what Katherine told Elena but the one thing I found truly odd in this episode was the fact that with a bunch of vampires, and a werewolf, some witches and warlocks, and all the other characters, not one of them mentioned trying to kill Klaus. Damon has been known to like his violence, Tyler is a newborn (newbie?) werewolf with killer instincts and nothing? Seriously questioning that bit.
    Also I agree with Annie that she might know because she took some vervain after being shook up but wouldn’t Damon have noticed if he hadn’t compelled her? He’s a hundred and 45 years old, he must be able to tell when someone isn’t actually being compelled anymore shouldn’t he?All in all a great episode and a great recap. Nicely done =D  

    if you go back to episode 1×12, the one with the 50′s theme school dance, Damon “compelled” Alaric, and thinking it worked, he walked away. When in actuality, Alaric had vervain in his hand and wasn’t really compelled. So Damon could easily not have realized it, epecially considering his emotional state.
    Speaking of Saltzman, where on earth IS our Buffy 2.0? I miss him! Glad he’s back next episode, considering the extended promo. “i’m naked…chunky monkey?” ROTFL

  • Vamp Lover

    if you go back to episode 1×12, the one with the 50′s theme school dance, Damon “compelled” Alaric, and thinking it worked, he walked away. When in actuality, Alaric had vervain in his hand and wasn’t really compelled. So Damon could easily not have realized it, epecially considering his emotional state.Speaking of Saltzman, where on earth IS our Buffy 2.0? I miss him! Glad he’s back next episode, considering the extended promo. “i’m naked…chunky monkey?” ROTFL  (Quote)

    I miss Alaric, too…so glad to see he will be back. I’ve been hoping against hope that Damon wasn’t actually able to compell Elena, making her forget what he said. By the way she looked after he left, it could go either way.

    Either way, it’s obvious she knows he’s the one who gave her the necklace back, because if it was Stefan, he would have proudly presented it to her.

  • Mac

    Am I the only one who doesn’t miss Alaric? I mean I don’t hate him or anything, but I don’t see how having him in any of the recent episodes more would have added anything to them? I hate when shows have random sub plots going on just to include everyone in every episode. True Blood Season 3, I’m looking at you!!
    I know some people think pretty much all of Jeremy’s scenes recently could have been Alaric scenes, but as much as Jeremy is Meh! to me, he’s kind of important in terms of the other characters.
    I read where Julie Plec said they’re working on bringing Alaric back into it more in the second half of the season. If you look at how little there was of Tyler last year, and now how they’ve brought him into it, I’m sure whatever they do for Alaric will be equally as good.

  • malerie

    The concern with Luca’s father is something to think about, especially with his thing with Elijah. But here’s something to ponder: could he be an Original himself pretending to be a witch? I don’t remember seeing him doing anything witchy, just Luca. Maybe Luca isn’t really his son, just a warlock enslaved by a vampire master.
    But can anyone answer the question if Luca’s father did anything witchy or just kind of stood there?

  • Mac

    if you go back to episode 1×12, the one with the 50′s theme school dance, Damon “compelled” Alaric, and thinking it worked, he walked away. When in actuality, Alaric had vervain in his hand and wasn’t really compelled. So Damon could easily not have realized it, epecially considering his emotional state.

    Wow, I forgot about that completely. Also, usually when people are compelled they repeat it all back, or at least a part of it. Elena said nothing. Although that might not mean anything.
    I still think I’d prefer it if she was compelled. It was such a big thing for Damon to do, and it seems a bit silly to have it not have actually worked, if you know what I mean. It kind of ruins it for me.

  • netta9228

    hi everyone i’m new here! i think deep down katherine does care about stefan, elena, and damon…she just doesn’t want them to know she has a weakness or a soft side( like bonnie) so she puts up this wall to protect herself from getting hurt( like rose said caring will get you killed). I believe if katherine gets free she will protect elena and the people she loves(stefan) and care about(damon)if they are in a terrible situation. I really want stefan and damon to see her get emotional and see her “human side” beause she does feel. I LOL-ed when katherine hunged herself quickly and i melted when stefan said caroline reminded him of lexi(awww i love stefan)..and lastly i’m glad that damon finally found someone to occupy his time or “distract him”..I hope rose sticks around i like her she plays her character well

  • jacquieyw

    One of the things I have always loved about this show is how the producers portray the vampires as trying to live a “normal life” in the human world. It somehow makes the supernatural characters more believable. This episode gave us a huge info dump with respect to vampire and werewolf mythology not to mention Mayan history. I think it’s going to be a struggle (not impossible) for the writers to pull all the storyline threads together – and still keep the series believable without seeming hokey.

  • lizzie

    I have been thinking about it and after reading the preview for the next episode I am convinced that jeremy trys to get the moonstone from katherine and stefan goes in after him to save him and gets stuck in the tomb(it says jeremy will be in danger and his action will put stefan in danger)….if you notice when elena is yelling at damon to let her go, it looks like the tomb setting, but when he says to go or he will throw her oever his shoulder, they are in that house she was in with rose….two different scenes I think.
    IDK just a thought…..Be careful what you wish for Vee! ;)

  • Ginie

    I think I have a headache. I did some major digging on the Aztecs, then some European history and folklore stuff (vamps/werewolves).
    A couldn’t connect any dots but… Katherine referred to ‘witches and their crafty spells’ so I’m thinking that a powerful witch created a similar curse to the Aztec one and used ’so many ingredients’ such as a vampire, a werewolf, the moonstone, and a specific (Petrova) human sacrifice. So the Aztecs specifically have nothing to do with it except that they have many times presented human sacrifice. (Maybe their curse was limited to the Aztec Empire which btw fell in 1521.) But the curse was made 600 yrs ago which should be around 1410. Klaus wanted Katerina in 1492 and she was a doppelganger back then… I think I’m more confused than before….

  • Anna

    my question is this.. when trevor was leading elijah and co. that katerina was in another direction, how come elijah couldn’t tell himself? or, why didnt they hear her rustling or running? unless elijah was in some way hurt or impaired, i find it strange that only trevor \knew\ where she was…

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  • Dominica

    I wanted to put my two cents in for what it’s worth. Not usually a commenter but this has been a captivating and mysterious season. In terms of Katerina being able to hang herself so quickly, Rose actually threw a rope with a noose on her, presumably to use to drag her back to Klaus. Also regarding the Aztec curse, I think it is just another culture experiencing a similar thing or perhaps recording it in their own way. My theory so far us that the original Petrova may be Klaus’s lover who may have died or been turned but eternally bound to death by the curse unless broken – perhaps by an angered father at her turning – with the aid of a witch. The witch added the ‘out clause’, being the doppelganger. The original Petrova perhaps had a child, eventually resulting in Katerina and Elena down the line. Also I imagine we may find that Katherine somehow set up Stefan and Damon to appear as Elena was coming of age – it will be no coincidence that Stefan was in the area as the Gilberts car went off the bridge, whether he knows it or not. A bit like the shock at the end of Season 3 True Blood when Bill’s true intentions were outed? Although I do think Stefan’s intentions are pure and he is a good guy. Also, I think that Rose compelled Damon when they got out of the car and went to see Slater. She looked into his eyes and said ‘You can trust me’ at which he seemed to shake his head in confusion at afterwards – the same as what humans do after they are compelled, or so I have noticed.

  • Euras

    forgot to write that I also think Elena wasn’t actually compelled during Damon’s confession and is just faking it. I think that’s why her greeting at Damon’s door looking for Stefan was forced.I think she was probably drinking vervain tea or the like.

    Elijah managed to compell her earlier, so no she wasn’t drinking vervain.

  • Vamp Lover

    Elijah managed to compell her earlier, so no she wasn’t drinking vervain.  (Quote)

    Also, if she plans to continue helping Stefan acclimate himself to human blood, no way would she drink vervain anything.

  • jamie

    loved this ep, saw a side of kat that never thought would see but can understand why she is the way she is.
    also am i the only one that thinks that Elisa is actually Klaus because in all things to do with Klaus we always see Elisa but never Klaus. could it simply be a case of a man hiding behind the image to protect himself?

  • vampdiariesfan

    Also, if she plans to continue helping Stefan acclimate himself to human blood, no way would she drink vervain anything.  (Quote)

    Maybe. But, I don’t think Damon can tell if someone is compelled or not. Just like with alaric (having vervain in his hand) or with Elena in a very early episode, season 1, when he tried to get her to kiss him, she looked compelled, but then slapped him. She had the necklace then and he didn’t know. Anyway, she could have have drank the tea that evening because she has put Stefan on hold, right? I mean she said all those things about how its her fault and her family/friends are at risk. They are pretty well taking a break. I think the writers left that end scene vague. They can use it or not. Its pretty interesting if she knows. And why on earth didn’t she have the “hey, which one of you vamps gave me the necklace back??” conversation?? A thank you to Stefan or something. She looks stiff and nervous when she sees Damon at the front door for the first time. Again, very vague as to whether she knows. I think the writers did that on purpose. I love the suspense.

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  • Mac

    I have been thinking about it and after reading the preview for the next episode I am convinced that jeremy trys to get the moonstone from katherine and stefan goes in after him to save him and gets stuck in the tomb(it says jeremy will be in danger and his action will put stefan in danger)….if you notice when elena is yelling at damon to let her go, it looks like the tomb setting, but when he says to go or he will throw her oever his shoulder, they are in that house she was in with rose….two different scenes I think.
    IDK just a thought…..Be careful what you wish for Vee! ;)  

    Yep, this is what I’m expecting too. I know I suggested the whole Damon’s compelled thing, but that’s really more of a crack theory. They’re not going to leave Katherine in the tomb forever, and the only way they’d ever lower the spell is if Stefan or Caroline got stuck in it too. I actually doubt if Bonnie would lower it for Damon, but I digress.
    You know maybe they should all just move into the tomb with Katherine, they’d be safe as houses. :)

  • http://www.twitter.com/Lmerlin Larissa

    Stefan was right all alone when he said Kathe

    Jessica, totally agree with you. But in Season 1 episode 12, Damon “compelled” Alaric to find out if he saw, heard anything after killing Anna’s friend (FYI: I still remember Damon’s dancing with the blond girl…HILARIOUS). He says: “Forget we’ve ever had this conversation”. Afterwards, we can see vervain in his hands. So, even with 145 y-o he can’t tell the difference if it’s working or not.I do believe from this point of view, that Elena is well aware of Damon’s feelings for her and had a nice vervain-tea (I think I’ll call it: “Vervtea”) that night. But one thing that is actually bothering me it’s her reaction. I don’t know, maybe it’s her necklace that showed up from nowhere or the fact that Damon opened his heart for her and considered her feelings for Stefan.

    I don’t know, every moment in this show is a cliffhanger.

    About Caroline’s relationship with Stefan, it’s awesome – in the first episode he was kind of cold and uninterested with her – Now as a vampire, he became her friend – it’s helping her out, saved her from Damon many times…blah blah blah…can’t remember the rest. Loving her as a vampire, although if she continued being a human, the storyline would be different. Her “sparks” (can I say that?? Don’t know what other word to use here) with Tyler were genuine, her “similar passage, doubts, etc..it’s the connection between them. Hope they don’t kill each other.

    Bonnie and Jeremy…well, Jeremy has become..mm..older. accepting Bonnie and Luka, well, that was nice! Their relationship can turn to be something.
    But really looking forward for Alaric moments.
    well, can’t wait for the next episode.
    No comments on Klaus, Rose, etc. Maybe for next chapter. LOL
    Love the show and Crissy, very good job on the review, each time I love it even more.

  • Georgia Peach

    Yep, this is what I’m expecting too. I know I suggested the whole Damon’s compelled thing, but that’s really more of a crack theory. They’re not going to leave Katherine in the tomb forever, and the only way they’d ever lower the spell is if Stefan or Caroline got stuck in it too. I actually doubt if Bonnie would lower it for Damon, but I digress.You know maybe they should all just move into the tomb with Katherine, they’d be safe as houses. :)  (Quote)

    Hey Mac, just got to add my 2 cents in; I do not think Damon is compelled in any way, shape or form. I think he is trying to keep Elena from going into the tomb after Stefan once Stefan gets stuck in there with Katherine, then at what looks like Slater’s apartment, Damon looks intense and what I consider scared for Elena and her dumb idea to sacrafice herself by going with Elijah. It looks like Damon is saving Elena from herself. Thank goodness Rose calls him Slater’s apartment. As strong as Damon is and ruthless as he can be, it will be a cold day in hell before Elijah could compell him. Once Damon realizes Elijah is still alive, the only thing he will want to know is how to kill the originals and Klaus, forget the curse and the moonstone.

  • Mac

    Jessica, totally agree with you. But in Season 1 episode 12, Damon “compelled” Alaric to find out if he saw, heard anything after killing Anna’s friend (FYI: I still remember Damon’s dancing with the blond girl…HILARIOUS). He says: “Forget we’ve ever had this conversation”. Afterwards, we can see vervain in his hands. So, even with 145 y-o he can’t tell the difference if it’s working or not.I do believe from this point of view, that Elena is well aware of Damon’s feelings for her and had a nice vervain-tea (I think I’ll call it: “Vervtea”) that night. But one thing that is actually bothering me it’s her reaction. I don’t know, maybe it’s her necklace that showed up from nowhere or the fact that Damon opened his heart for her and considered her feelings for Stefan.I don’t know, every moment in this show is a cliffhanger.

    I think whether she remembers or not, she knows it was Damon that brought back the necklace. Like someone said already, if it had been Stefan who brought it back he’d just have given it to her, no big deal.
    If she thought it was someone else creeping around in her house at night without her knowing, I’m sure she’d have brought it up, especially given everything that’s going on.
    She knows someone had to bring it into her house and then make her forget, which means it could only be Damon, what with the whole having to be invited in thing. I’d say the rather frosty reaction she had towards him in this episode was because she knows it was him, but has no clue as to why he did it, or what he did before compelling her.

  • Georgia Peach

    Elena’s frosty attitude towards Damon and Stefan seemed, well rude, considering they both had just rescued her. I’m sure she knows it was Damon that retrieved her necklace and brought it back to her, as does Stefan. That part I feel is understood. As for whether Damon compelled her to forget the I love you part, he probably did, unless she used Jenna’s perfume. I don’t think she would injest vervain but then again, I am not sure she is still popping a vein for Stefan to partake small amounts of blood from her either. So much for the it’s you and me Stefan. My guess, Elena would like to know what happened with Damon after he gave her necklace back to her. If she does not remember, that has to be bothering her. If she does remember, his honesty,vulnerability, and him doing such a selfless act comes as a surprise to her and she is sorting it all out. At the end of the day, she will realize she has very strong feelings for Damon.

  • Mac

    Elena’s frosty attitude towards Damon and Stefan seemed, well rude, considering they both had just rescued her.

    Elena’s frosty attitude towards Damon and Stefan seemed, well rude, considering they both had just rescued her.

    Well I think her attitude towards Damon is understandable if we’re right, which I think we are, and she knows he did something to her when he brought the necklace back.
    As for Stefan she wasn’t that rude to him. She seemed a bit put out by the fact they had Rose there, which is understandable, and then she was deliberately cool towards him when she was leaving because she knew she was going to see Katherine and didn’t want him following her. Of course it seemed rude at the time, but afterwards I thought it was understandable and excusable.

  • rehabber

    Wow, I forgot about that completely. Also, usually when people are compelled they repeat it all back, or at least a part of it. Elena said nothing. Although that might not mean anything.
    I still think I’d prefer it if she was compelled. It was such a big thing for Damon to do, and it seems a bit silly to have it not have actually worked, if you know what I mean. It kind of ruins it for me.  

    Remember Elena also played like she was compelled when Bonnie and her were kidnapped. And she did repeat back what she had been told.

  • rehabber

    Elijah managed to compell her earlier, so no she wasn’t drinking vervain.  

    I keep going back to the scene shot from the bathroom where you can see a spray bottle. I think Elena is using Jenna’s perfume, she is smart enough to know to use something since her necklace was gone, but could not drink anything as Stefan might need a sip.

  • nil

    i just think that Klaus can’t walk in the sun and that Elijah has to break the curse or whatever for Klaus. :P

  • netta9228

    I don’t think elena has feelings for damon i think she just care about him as a friend. I do think she was compelled and i think she know damon gave the necklace back to her. even if she do like him you don’t leave the person your in love with to a crush. honestly i don’t see how elena could love him because they never really did anything( maybe an attraction)..sure damon kissed her etc but i think she truely loves stefan( they have been through alot which makes you grow stronger together). I like elena and stefan, but i love katherine and stefan more( if delena does happen that will probably be the reason why stefan and elena split because i know deep down stefan loves katherine)..i hope katherine and stefan get together and elena with damon but i like rose and damon or bonnie and damon( sorry for getting off topic xD)

  • Nathangeline

    OKAY. SOOO…… can anyone tell me what curse are they trying to break.. I don’t get that part. Are they trying to break the curse of the vampire or werewolf or what. I don’t get it

  • Nathangeline

    OKAY…SOOOOO….CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT THE CURSE IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BREAK. IS IT THE VAMPIRE CURSE, WEREWOLF OR WHAT?? I DON’T GET IT

  • Jessica T

    I like all the points that everyone made on the whole vervain topic, and I never really considered the fact that maybe Elena thought something had happened when it didn’t. But i’m starting to think on account of what people said that Elena does know what Damon did, so in the case of her being off set around Damon, I’m starting to believe that not only was she trying to be ‘rude’ to keep Stefan from following her, but more importantly from Damon following her. From all that has happened this season we can safely say that Damon is still not entirely sane when it comes to Katherine, so if he were to go too. Well wasn’t Damon the one who said that they shouldn’t go see her because she was ‘a manipulative bitch and they would be stupid enough to let her out?” Elena is no dumb girl, if she did know what Damon did, i’m pretty sure she has diffferent intentions.

  • Lisa

    Didn’t Damon show Elena her necklace before he compelled her??
    So she would have known that it was Damon who gave her the necklace. He only compelled her not to remember his confession of love for her. That is why she didn’t need to have the conversation of which vampire brother gave her the necklace back.

  • CanadianTVDFan

    @ Jamie. I was wondering the same thing on another thread. I think he may be hiding in plain view. Easily done since no one really knows what he looks like. When Slater commented that he was special b/c he was an original, Elijah just sort of snorted, and he had a look on his face like ” you have no idea”. Perhaps that is what makes him ‘special’, he IS THE FIRST. Everyone after him is kind of a watered down version. Could be totally off the wall but for now I am sticking with he is Klaus.
    @Jessica. I think you are right about the vervain deal, as far as Stefan goes anyway. I think she did use something -tea, lotion,perfume, what have you but I don’t think she was compelled. As it has been mentioned, her pupils didn’t dilate, she didn’t repeat anything back, looked like she was fighting not to tear up, and she was looking for a kiss on the mouth. Her knowing I think is the reason Damon answering the door for her was sooo awkward. Where I agree with Jessica is that I don’t think that as her and Stefan are not really together (until she feels safe), she won’t be sharing blood anymore. He is on his own there I think, for now anyway. So it makes sense that as she did not have her necklace she would have used something. Than again maybe not. Are we all over thinking this season too much? I know I am about the Aztec curse thing and how that timeline fits in. I must just take it at face value I guess.
    @Nathangeline. The moonstone holds both curses. It is just a matter of who gets to it first and breaks ‘their’ curse. If the vampires get it the werewolves are stuck with the moon curse forever. If the werewolves get it, then the vampire are stuck with the sun curse forever. The vamps don’t want the wolves to get it as then the vamps are more vulnerable to the wolves as they still have the curse of the sun but the wolves can change whenever they want.

  • Jessica T

    @CanadianTVDfan
    I too am starting to think that we are over thinking things a bit but maybe not. There is always more to a situation than what we initally think as been proved in the plot of this season so far. But now that I said it I can’t get past the thought that Elena was rude to Damon because if she went to talk to Katherine he would stop her, because he loved her or was scared of Katherine or both. It would make sense that even though their relationship had been full of turmoil she would still want to protect him. Especially if she wasn’t compelled, she would have seen the tear and even she can’t be completely immune to that. But what I really wonder, after our consensus on the subject, is what exactly are the producers going to do with it, but more importantly, if Elena wasn’t compelled, what is Damon going to do when he finds out?

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  • Tamara

    I do think she was compelled, but only for the part of Damon’s love confession. She is aware of the fact who gave her necklace back, but I would like her not to remember the rest of the scene. That’s her biggest dilemma and maybe the reason why she was so rude and icy toward Damon. She must be thinking that he did something to take advantage of her, because she was all frightened when he approaches to her after: “I have to say something”. It is understandable and kind a predictable reaction of hers, because she is so like Stefan when it comes about Damon and his intentions. And also she remembers very well what happened last time (in Return), when they were alone in her room. She was absolutely aware of which direction he could take, as she said: “Damon don’t go there”. But, she didn’t expect to hear all what he said, and yes that touched her and caught her off guard. And I agree that she was “looked like she was fighting not to tear up, and she was looking for a kiss on the mouth”. And it is great that she didn’t say anything during the scene, because she would probably ruined the beauty of it. I like the idea of her remembering something from that night like foggy flashbacks, but it is better for both of them not to remember it completely or maybe at all. She is not ready to consider Damon or her feelings for him at the moment. She could only hurts him more if she starts any kind of conversation about it. And regarding @Jessica T “But what I really wonder, after our consensus on the subject, is what exactly are the producers going to do with it, but more importantly, if Elena wasn’t compelled, what is Damon going to do when he finds out?” I think he would deny it at all costs.

  • netta9228

    damon only compelled her to forget his confession..i think she knows about him returning it but not the love confession. also they showed many episodes of people being compelled without repeating( in memory lane katherine compelled damon..she said “i told you..i’m tired i wish to be alone tonight..please leave”) damon didn’t repeat he simply just left

  • jamie

    @CanadianTVDfan
    i think your right….also why would katharine come to get the pieces to the curse puzzle now why not sometime else over the last 17 years? she couldnt of just wanted to give Klaus the pieces he needs to undue the curse coz why did she wait so long? could it be that the moonstone would give the holder influence over the werewolves considering they cant be compelled…coz im starting to think ok the originals are immuned to sunlight , stake in the heart, vervain, but do we know if they are immuned to a werewolf bite? i dont think anyone of them would risk it. so im startin to think that something like this was more or Katharine’s plan then just giving Klaus what he wanted to begin with.

  • Mac

    @CanadianTVDfan
    i think your right….also why would katharine come to get the pieces to the curse puzzle now why not sometime else over the last 17 years?

    I don’t think Katherine knew Elena existed until after Isobel showed up. I could be wrong but the timing seems to work. Isobel shows up, mentions how Katherine would be fascinated with Elena, next episode, Katherine shows up. Also she was still pretending to be dead for those 17 years, when the tomb was opened it was revealed she wasn’t dead, so she needed a new plan to get Klaus off her back.

  • jamie

    @ mac
    yeah i thought the same thing about that isobel could of told her about elena, but the thing about her pretending to be dead well it doesnt fit because when the tomb was opened and damian couldnt find her he asked anna and anna said something along the lines of that she was never in the tomb and that she bribed one of the guards and got away. so if anna knew this wouldnt Klaus also considering her “has ears everywhere”

  • sarah

    I have a crazy theory! Lexi has been mentioned very frequently lately (three times in the last three episodes, to be precise), so WHAT IF SHE IS NOT REALLY DEAD? Maybe she is an Original… she came back to life shortly after Damon staked her, went into hiding because she didn’t want Stefan to know her secret, and she is going to reveal herself again in due time, to reveal the secret of how to kill the Originals.

    Disclaimer: I don’t actually think this is going to happen, but it’s fun to speculate. :)

  • Janni Frost

    Another amazing recap Crissy. Loved it as I do the rest.I truly enjoyed this episode I must admit and I was super impressed at all the different accents that Nina Dobrev was throwing out there. She has really shown her talent and definitely deserves some sort of reward for that. I also think it was truly satisfying that we finally got some back story into Katherines past it was much over due! I liked that Rose and Trevor were still there and I also thought it was interesting at the cabin that a human who was only just turned into a vampire so readily killed that woman. I understand that she was protecting herself as always but it would be interesting to know more of her personality as a human so that maybe we would be able to better understand her.As with Klaus that was really interesting with what Katherine told Elena but the one thing I found truly odd in this episode was the fact that with a bunch of vampires, and a werewolf, some witches and warlocks, and all the other characters, not one of them mentioned trying to kill Klaus. Damon has been known to like his violence, Tyler is a newborn (newbie?) werewolf with killer instincts and nothing? Seriously questioning that bit. Also I agree with Annie that she might know because she took some vervain after being shook up but wouldn’t Damon have noticed if he hadn’t compelled her? He’s a hundred and 45 years old, he must be able to tell when someone isn’t actually being compelled anymore shouldn’t he?All in all a great episode and a great recap. Nicely done =D  (Quote)

    In season 1 epsiode 12 Damon fought he compelled Ric in the hall, so no i dont think they can tell if somebody is faking ;P

  • Tilli

    In the books, white ash wood HURTS them but does not KILL them, so it would only keep them down for a few minutes but then again the books is nothing like the show.

  • Exploding Orange

    WHATS TVD????? Television versus Digital??
    Has anyone noticed how ugly Elenas clothes have gotten. EEEwwww get some help! AGGGGHHHH again the debate between Elena and Stefan and Elena and Damon forever the struggle between brothers oooooooooo. Hey mac last time mentioned Vamplover thought Id give you a bit of a shout out. Forgot to mention sexy Jeremy has anyone noticed how f$#%ing hot he’s gotten who knew!!!! LOVE EXPLODING ORANGE xoxo

  • Annie

    I love this episode so much! Nina Dobrev did a great job:D

    I felt so sad for Elena and Katherine. Both of their parents died because of them(Well sort of) Elena’s parents died because they had to pick up Elena from a party that she wasn’t mean to go to and then there was an accident. Katherine’s parents died because she escape from Klaus so Klaus killed her family. :(

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