Posted by Crissy Calhoun | May 2, 2011, 8:38 (EST) | 149 Comments
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Vampire Diaries: The Last Day (EP220) recap - As Good As DeadAbove the desk where I’m writing this (my bride-to-be bestie has kindly loaned me use of her office) is one of those posters: Keep Calm and Carry On. (Yes, I’m in England.) And after The Last Day I imagine something along those lines is what’s repeating in Elena’s head as she is faced with an impending sacrifice and all sorts of complications — those twists and turns the evil, evil Vampire Diaries loves to throw our way so we scream and cry at our television.

Always Have a Back-Up: Just as Katherine had her plans A through Z, and Klaus believes in having back-up supernatural creatures for sacrifice just in case of pesky vampire subterfuge, Damon isn’t comfortable with Elena’s plan — that Elijah is telling the truth, that his no-expiry elixir will work, and that she will be revived post-sacrifice and not just dead-dead. Unwilling to consider the alternative — Bonnie killing Klaus and dying in the process — from Elena’s perspective she has no choice but to have faith that things will work out as planned, to keep calm and carry on, and she planned to enter into the sacrifice fully knowing the risk it poses her. Dying. Forever. Her choice is to take that chance in the hopes of saving those she loves and to serve the greater good (keeping Klaus from becoming even more super-powerful should his werewolf side be set free).

To understate the situation, the Salvatore brothers react in different ways to her plan. Stefan urges his brother to trust Elena’s instincts about Elijah — that Elena put her faith in them and so they should respect her faith in Elijah. Damon rather hilariously points out that Elena’s faith in him shows questionable judgment — and then minutes later, proves that statement by pulling one of his classic Damon act-without-thinking-and-then-immediately-regret-it moves. Though Damon feels as though his opinion doesn’t matter, Elena wants him to understand her choice and to respect it. But for him, losing Elena isn’t an option; it’s not an acceptable risk. So Damon does the thing that Stefan wouldn’t even raise as an option with Elena: he force-feeds her his blood, ensuring that she’ll come back to life — as a transitioning vampire.

That the subject of Elena becoming a vampire has barely been mentioned in nearly two seasons is a remarkable feat for this show — and as for Stefan and Damon and Elena, it’s certainly something we have all thought about when considering the future of the series and how Elena could get out of her current mess. In The Return Elena didn’t understand why Jeremy would want to become a vampire, a subtle moment that reminded us that for Elena, eternal life as a 17-year-old girl isn’t that appealing. She didn’t seem to even consider the option what Katherine posed it to her in Katerina (particularly since vamping out doesn’t save your family from Klaus’s vengeance). As much as we thought we knew how she felt about it, it was a beautifully honest and crushing moment built up to over the episode, having Elena tell Stefan that she doesn’t want to be a vampire and never has. For me, in this episode Elena looked more like she did in the pilot episode than ever — a similar outfit, the falls and the wooden bridge (harking back to Stefan and Elena’s first real conversation), and in finally admitting how she felt at the top of the mountain, it was clear that though she’s tough and can handle so much of the grief and horror thrown her way, she’s still a teenager. She’s still young —considerably so when compared to Stefan and Damon, who are teenagers themselves compared to Klaus and Elijah.

On their walk up, Stefan tells the inquisitive Elena that the two hardest things about being a vampire are the bloodlust and the heightened emotions. Stefan is just now learning how to manage his bloodlust, after denying himself human blood for so long, and though he still struggles with the extremes of emotion a vampire feels, he says the good outweighs the bad. He manages it. And that’s evident in how he carries himself: just like Damon, he wants Elena to be by his side forever, but he won’t even bring up the option of her turning because he knows it’s not what she wants. He respects her right to decide for herself, and because he loves her, he can’t be selfish with her. Even when saying goodbye to her, when Klaus comes for her, though everything in him is fighting against letting her go, he does. On the flip side is Damon, who has control over his bloodlust but is only now learning to manage his humanity, the overwhelming nature of anger, love, rejection, and hurt now that he lets himself feel. Though there’s some truth in Damon saying to Stefan, in their fight in Damon’s room, that Stefan’s angry because he wishes he had the balls to turn Elena himself — it’s what both brothers want — Damon lets his impulse take over in a selfish action, one that Stefan is able to fight off. Where Stefan has impulse control, Damon gives into a frenzy of passion. It’s telling that Damon immediately sees the error of his ways (as he did after snapping Jeremy’s neck), he knows he screwed up and is willing to die trying to make it right to Elena. And with that bite from wolf-Tyler, dying is a distinct possibility for Damon — after a frightening descent into madness, of course.

And that’s what I love about this show: our heroine is in danger of becoming a vampire, our anti-hero is slated for a harrowing death, recently not-so-clueless Jenna is about to vamp out and then be sacrificed — and we still have two episodes left in the season. What are they going to do to us??

Should they survive their current trapped-with-an-attacking-werewolf situation, Caroline and Matt have some serious conversations to have. Loved the turn Matt took in this episode: presented with a hollow argument that all vampires are evil and Caroline still being Caroline, Matt realizes that she’s not the enemy — and that he’ll fight to protect her, even if he has no idea what the hell he’s getting himself into. Matt has faith in Caroline. And Liz is faltering in her long-held beliefs that vampires are demons, soulless creatures who put on a show of humanity to trick their victims. She’s not entirely wrong, some vampires are; it’s just as with any other group — humans, werewolves, witches, vampires, in real life as in Mystic Falls — a blanket characterization is never accurate and is often a very, very dangerous idea to subscribe to.

Matt is proving himself capable in a crisis, just as Alaric sees Jenna is. I love this new Jenna-in-the-know, wielding crossbows, fetching blood bags, and realizing that when the stakes are this high, problems are put into perspective. Though she wasn’t on speaking terms with Alaric just yesterday, today she sets aside her anger and feelings of betrayal to let him know she loves him. (Also: how Alaric proved he wasn’t Klaus anymore? Hilarious.) And that same sentiment is echoed in Caroline and Tyler’s scenes. With sacrifice an imminent possibility, Caroline wants to clear the air between them. Tyler tells her why he left without saying goodbye — and she lets him know she was hurt, but could never hate him. (Perhaps in the forgiveness shown between Tyler and Caroline and Jenna and Alaric, Damon can hope for the same from the perennially forgiving Elena?)

Not one to be overshadowed by the new and awesome Jenna and Matt, Tyler returned to Mystic Falls with a sense of control and calm that he didn’t have when he left, and that he certainly didn’t have last season. Like Caroline and Jeremy earlier this season, Tyler seems to have grown up after facing loss, pain, and life-altering supernatural complications.

While the rest of the characters are banding together, protecting each other and making sure the ones they love know they are loved, our two resident villains keep fighting for themselves. Klaus has a thousand years of determination and experience riding on this curse-breaking plot, and his calm menace is impressive and not a little bit terrifying. Equally impressive is Katherine’s resolve: she’ll stand in sunlight and burn if it helps her chance of escape. For Katherine, it’s a competition — both to live (willing to throw Jenna under the proverbial bus in order to not be the vampire sacrificed) and for love (willing to betray Klaus’s secrets to take out Elena as her eternal competition for Stefan’s heart).

So what the hell is going to happen in the next two episodes? There seems to be a deliberate amount of information and plotting that we’re not in the loop on. Where oh where is my favorite Original as night falls? Elijah is missing in action, and Bonnie and Jeremy are surprisingly absent from The Last Day. Uncle John is on an ill-timed, unexplained sojourn somewhere or other. That elixir? Doubt we’ve seen the last of it. I, for one, cannot wait to see the missing pieces of the puzzle come together.

Compelling Moment: Elena’s tearful speech, mourning a lifetime of choices she’s lost.

The Rules: Elijah theorizes that the Gilbert ring will not work on Elena because as a doppelganger her origin is supernatural (and the rings only work on humans). Tyler’s transformation into a wolf is happening faster, though it is still beginning earlier than Jules’s as the more mature werewolf (unless Klaus wasn’t watching a live feed of her transformation?).

Foggy Moments:

  • Klaus tells Katherine he needs her to do something for him long before he knows that Damon has been bitten by a werewolf and is useless to him. Did he decide to turn Jenna as a punishment for whichever brother ended up trying to stop his plan?

 

Other thoughts & questions before The Sun Also Rises (EP221):

  • How did Maddox make Carol call Tyler? Was that compulsion by proxy (sort of what he did with Isobel) or was that a spell?
  • Elijah explains that Klaus has to kill a vampire and a werewolf, representing the two halves of his bloodline. Then he drinks the blood of the doppelganger, to the point of her death. Is there any clue in that as to how the original Petrova is connected to Klaus? Did she die at his hand? Does he have to be willing to kill her (or a replica of her) in order to take such great power? (Implying she is, in one way or another, a person Klaus once loved.)
  • What is the deal with Greta? She seemed pretty friendly with Klaus in the previous episode, and in The Last Day she tells Elena that her father and brother were wasting their time looking for her — she wasn’t lost. We’ve heard that turn of phrase from a missing loved one before: Isobel said it to Alaric. Is Greta similarly enamored with the dark side? Does she know her brother and father are dead?
  • Does Klaus have to sacrifice the werewolf in wolf form or does it matter?
  • Do you think Elijah’s right — that Elena will never forgive Damon for taking away her self-determination?

 

Sound off below with your thoughts and theories below! And for those of you interested, I’ve just posted the cover for my book on the second season of The Vampire Diaries over on my blog — have a look and let me know what you think!

 
Crissy Calhoun is the author of Love You to Death: The Unofficial Companion to The Vampire Diaries and is writing a follow-up book that covers season 2 (due out in September 2011). When not obsessively re-watching CW shows, she works as managing editor at ECW Press in Toronto. She blogs on TVD, Gossip Girl, and other random things at crissycalhoun.com and tweets @crissycalhoun.

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  • Sydney

    Yep, 4-5 months is a long time….A bright point: It’s very different, but I got into TVD during my True Blood withdrawal. It’s more grown up, naughtier and gorier, but it’s so witty and creative…and S4 starts in June just in time for my TVD withdrawal!

  • guest

    Stefan ran in before Damon could finish the job. Followed by Alaric and Jenna. Do I think Damon respects Elena, no. I think he is selfish and only thinks about what would make Damon happy and what Damon thinks other people would be happy with. He doesn’t talk he just does it and expects everyone to except it. If they don’t agree with them he either, dismisses, attacks or kills someone. Really, for me I just didn’t like the way he just grabbed Elena and did what he wanted. Thinking it was his choice. It wasn’t his choice. He doesn’t respect anyone.

  • guest2

    I’m a different “guest”, which means that more people posted under the moniker “guest”. While I have nothing to comment on the correlation between Ian’s looks and a general tendency to find justifications for Damon’s behavior (because it is irrelevant to a great extent, though I admit I have come across numerous messages that reinforce the very theory postulated by the “guest” above), I do wish to engage other points from your post. I agree with you that season 2 Damon has changed dramatically since season 1; I agree that his character is complex and that one needs an open mind to like or empathize with him; however, all of this does not preclude me or others from seeing Damon’s actions for what they truly are (no matter what moment on the journey he is on at this point). My problem with this character is that no matter what he does, everyone in the TVD universe seems to forgive him. All he needs to do is to apologize once (maybe) and drink 3 bottles of whiskey to show that he’s “upset”. When he killed an innocent woman (Jessica), the incident was swept under the rug. He assaulted Andie, but who cares? He showed “growth” by not killing her. He violated Elena’s human rights, but I bet she’ll forgive him very quickly because she “loves” him (*roll eyes*). So why am I supposed to root for this character then?

    *In terms of character complexity, I can point out a hundred books and shows in which bad boys like Damon turn good for the love of a woman. This is not complex, this is an overused cliche.

  • Bby

    Nice hypothesis Jay Marie. I think the elixer will be used on Damon…why waste a good thing. In the novel series Elena becomes a vampire because she had both Stefan & Damon’s blood in her. The last book that Smith wrote had Damon dead because he saved Bonnie.

    In the TV series, Damon is true to his character and so is Stefan so we shouldn’t be surprised or angry.

  • Sydney

    This bothers me. There are a lot of people out there being forced into what someone else thinks is “good for them”. You can imagine the kind of things I’m referring to. But you miss the vital point. “What is good for someone” is subjective, and as long as the individual is in their right mind, the only person placed to decide that is them!

  • Linn

    No, she will be good, and I don’t even think she’ll kill her first human to feed on. This is the only way to be sure that she’ll come back, yes. And if it was another way to be 100% sure, I think Damon would’ve been all for it, I don’t think he wants her as a vampire at all, but it is so much better than to never se her alive again.

    But a thought just came to me, what if the sacrifice can’t happen if Elena has vampire blood in her system? Klaus would go crazy.

    I season 5 would be a nice time for her to becoming a vampire. Yes, Bonnie is the secret weapon after all, so she have to come up with something now that she is so strong. Something that will not kill her of course.

  • Dark-obsession

    Se’ll have to forgive Damon eventually. Who can resist those puppy dog eyes? :P

  • Big

    I have to say that Stefan had the balls to put Elena’s wishes over hiw own, because he knew she didn’t want to turn, so he had more balls than Damon because Damon put his wishes over Elena’s own.

  • Canderella

    Maybe you are right. I am still offended by it and probably it’s the way he like ‘broke her will’ or did it against her will which I found most frightening. Please don’t take my words literally, no native, don’t know how to say it.
    Being a mother and having sometimes to make decisions for the good of my kid against his will is pretty hard. Still only in an emergeny such action for me is like justyfied. And to me there was not actual emergency in that situation, except for Damon’s need not to let her go in this very moment.
    Sorry, just my two cents ;)

  • Estelle

    I hope Elena will forgive Damon and finally see that she has feelings for him. And i hope that Damon survives!!!! There is no vampire diaries without him for me.

  • Anonymous

    You´re absolutely right. What I wrote could easily be misunderstood. I think the personal right of one person ends where the one of another begins. And I was not talking about men forcing their will on women because they think women are stupid or because the men think they are allowed to decide how a woman feels. That´s a completely terrible concept to me in real life, too. In so far you are more than right.
    It´s dangerous to mix real life and fantasy. That´s what I did and it can lead to statements which are out of discussion.
    What I meant was more like Damon loves Elena, she is desperate and needs whatever help is there even if it´s dangerous. She can only chose the lesse of two evils. And Damon wanted to give her an option.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    A friend of mine mentioned the same thing about the vamp blood in Elena’s system. Elijah didn’t seem to be concerned about the fact that she had vamp blood in her system as far as the ritual goes, so I’m not sure that it matters. We’ll have to wait and see.

  • Anonymous

    We’re having an agree to disagree moment aren’t we? Had Damon wanted to finish the job, he could have taken Elena away and finished the job. Surely you don’t doubt that?

    Anyhow, thanks for responding back with your point of view. I don’t agree, but I think you already know that.

  • Anonymous

    We’re having an agree to disagree moment aren’t we? Had Damon wanted to finish the job, he could have taken Elena away and finished the job. Surely you don’t doubt that?

    Anyhow, thanks for responding back with your point of view. I don’t agree, but I think you already know that.

  • Anonymous

    Hi Sydney, I didn’t know when TB would start back up, thanks for the heads up:)

  • BeeBlood

    >Damon CARES!
    Well said, Adriana!

    I hope Elena will finally see that it’s always Damon putting himself in the line, helping everyone – Stefan is eloquent, but faced with danger he is just Elena’s little puppy (sorry folks!).

  • BeeBlood

    >I want Ric to be on the show forever.
    Yes, please! He is really better than ever. No wonder Jenna got so turned on (before being turned, at least…).

  • BeeBlood

    Am I the only one who almost cried? This scene: Damon holding Elena’s hands in his bedroom, “I can’t loose you”, the tragic intimacy, his passionate feelings for her….
    Everybody seems to be so carried away by the next shocking scene. But really, this was the most intimate Delena moment on the show EVER.

  • JNasty536

    In regards to #3, Damon actually does that a lot, does something impulsive then immediately regrets it. He did it with Jeremy, Andie, and now Elena. There’s probably more that I can’t think of right now but yes I would say it shows Damon’s growth because now he realizes it, as before he would not have had a second thought about it. The problem now is that Damon may realize his mishaps, but he himself cannot control it even though he knows now that it is wrong. We saw this clearly with Andie. After he attacked her and threw her down we saw his immediate regret and shame, but he had to compel her to leave because he couldn’t even trust himself not to do something he would regret. It is gonna take Damon time to get control over his emotions and rash impulses, just as Stefan never really worked his control with human blood… Damon never allowed himself to “feel” and practice his control over his emotions. I would imagine that in the past even Stefan’s behavior was sporadic after he stopped feeding on humans and allowed himself to feel again. Like he said to Elena; he said that a Vampires emotions can be overwhelming, and that is the reason why so many Vampires chose to turn their emotions off.

  • Bowetara

    I loved your comment!! I feel the same way, about everything that you stated.

  • Cordy

    At the very least understand where he was coming from and that she has more feelings then ‘I care about you’ for him.

  • dorkus

    This replay os for Guest who responded to my post at 12:30am today, May 3rd.

    Thank you Guest. Good point on the multiple postings but I think I was not far saying you are not big fan of Damon in general, which I totally respect.

    Well yes, what Damon did throuout the series is not OKAY and his actions are what they are. Never thought of dismissing the ruthless and selfishness of his actions. However, the key point of all of this is to show how one can go from one extreme to the other: a person with no regard to human life to someone who is willing to put life on the line for others. Damon is getting closer to the other extreme and now he needs to learn how to balance it. In my opinion, the writers used extreme cases (because they could given it is a TV show) to show the character evolution in a very dramatic way. In real life, Damon would be considered a criminal and I would agree to that but on the show, his action are more “tools” to show how one can change once there is a purpose. Again, I never dismissed the hurrying consequences of his actions and pain he caused to others. But I think the writers’ point (among other things) is to mainly show through these dramatic things Damon has done that despite of all the horrible things we may have done in life, we can still pick up of what is left of us and become better. HOWEVER, there is one condition: we need to first accept who we are at the moment and realize consequences of our actions. The big part of the process is forgiveness and that is the biggest piece of the puzzle: and yes, even in Damon case forgiveness is possible. And the most amazing thing about us is that even we may be capable of doing horrible things we are also capable of forgiving for the “unforgivable”. So I think Damon is still on his journey: he was lost and has been found, he is picking up his pieces, he is realizing who he is and what he has done. But nothing will matter if he is not forgiven first.

    As for the complexity of the character, we could debate on that. Yes, you can say that his evolution is somehow predictable but this is not what I am referring in his character: I am thinking more of his struggle: how the good and bad is intertwine and how the character is fighting to separate these to powerful forces. Perhaps it is cliché to you but not to me. Just my opinion.

    Thank you for the debate.

  • JNasty536

    I would definitely say Damon is the most pro-active. Damon is the only one who thinks rationally/objectively instead of emotionally… Granted he’s probably not the guy you want to rock you to sleep, but at the end of the day he is the one who will keep ya alive and have all the life saving ideas. A good example of this is when he faked Bonnie’s death, even at the expense of the emotional agony that it put Elena/Stefan through. In the end though it was the right call and it’s an idea that probably wouldn’t have even crossed Stefan’s mind nor a decision he could easily make.

    I thought it was interesting when Klaus took Elena, and Stefan immediately called Damon afterwords. Even after what Damon has done, they both had a mutual understanding. It showed that despite of the things that they put each other through, in the end Stefan trusts Damon to do what he must to save Elena. Immediately after Elena was taken, Damon was the first person that Stefan turned to for help. I really thought this was a great correlation in this episode because it showed once again that this show really comes down to family, despite the supernatural life and death aspects of it.

  • Jill

    You just so beautifully articulated the very thing I have been attempting to explain in other posts. I agree completely. The issue certainly is not black and white.

  • Tatiana

    Great recap Crissy!!

    I think Elena proved to be a mature girl when she said she doesn´t know what love is yet and also by saying that she loves Stefan now but she doesn´t know if her feelings will change in the future.

    There was one scene at the beginning of the episode that really annoyed me:
    Damon: What if the elixir doesn´t work?
    Elena: Then I guess that I´ll just be dead.
    And Stefan´s face was just like: Yes, she will be dead.

    I can´t understand him, his girlfriend will die and he seems to be fine with it.
    I know he loves her but he didn´t show it in that scene. I think his reaction should have been different considering the way he feels about her, but this is just my opinion.

  • guest

    While I do agree that nothing is ever black and white. What I meant pertaining to Damon’s looks is, “some” fans will always think that Damon does no wrong because his is very good looking and want Elena to be with him. I’ve heard some comments stating Stefan is…ugly,asshole,whipped,boring, etc. Then I’ve read comments, well Damon is so hot, they have to get together, he belongs with her. For me, I’m taking the whole “relationship” part of the equation out of this for a moment. For me it had to do with Damon grabbing/holding Elena down rendering her completely helpless. I just felt very uncomfortable seeing that because he is stronger then her. He could have complete control over her. Had Stefan, Alaric and Jenna not saved her. What if he took it a step further. Like with Vicki and broke her neck. She would have had no chance. I just think that people should understand that this will take Elena a while to get over. She will get over it eventually and they (Damon and Elena) will be together. But, for now I look forward to Damon realizing (I hope) that what he did was wrong and how he will start to control these urges.

  • Andrea Schultheiss

    I think Maddox saw Tyler with Jules, before he talked with Caroline… And Maddox wouldt recognize a ww too.
    I totally agree with you: Damon hasn´t taken Elena´s choices: if she really dies with the sacrifice, she wouldn´t have any choices for her lifetime at all!! So better a vampire life than nothing. She has to forgive him, despite (ungeachtet) the sacrifice is ending!!

    To Damon´s werwolfbite: maybe Tyler wasn´t totally shifted into a ww, so that the mutt isn´t as harmful as Rose´s was ?..

  • YOOHOO

    it actually starts june 26th!! So excited

  • Rickthepitt

    I guess one of the things that bothered me in this epsode was Elenas little speech to Stefan.If you cannot see yourself becoming a vampire or that is a choice that she would never have made,then why in the hell be with a vampire at all,whether it’s Stefan or Damon.Because if she really wants a family and children then,sorry,this leaves both brothers out of the running.So,what she is in fact saying given a choice she would never choice to be a vampire(which is fine she’s only 17)so that says to me,yes,she loves Stefan now,but doesn’t see him as her future……WOW!…Poor Stefan.I guess so much for this epic love story then because I’ll never look at it the same way again.Just my opinion.

  • guest

    I think it’s hilarious how you ended with bad english. But you knew to write, WTF .

  • dorkus

    Thank you Jill.

  • Linn

    I know, that was a beautyfull scene, when Damon hold hard at Elena’s hand, that is th scene people should talk about. Frankly I don’t care about the next scene, I saw it coming on Damon’s face when Elena started to walk away.

  • Linn

    Oh, yes! I didn’t think about Elijah, he probably would have said something about that. But we’ll have to wait and see. Hope it has nothing to say, Damon have enough to think about, if Klaus will go all crazy on him because of that too. By the way, I really hope that Elijah know about something that will heal Damon.

  • Zara-choudhury

    As much as I love Damon as a character him and Elena wouldn’t make a good long-term couple for several reasons. Elena and Stefan belong together and have been through so much, yet their feelings for each other haven’t changed.

    It seems like Damon does something to anger Elena one to many times. Btw, this sounds mean but it’s as if Damon wants what his Brother has e.g. Katherine then Elena. It’s obvious that is the reason why both women prefer Stefan as Damon is TOO clingy when he falls in love properly.

    Delena have good sexual chemistry, but other than that, the relationship will mostly be physical. If Elena sleeps with Damon whilst Stefan goes out to find a cure for Damon, wouldn’t that make him an ass (even if he’s dying) and her a slag?

    I really love both characters but I just don’t want to end up hating them for hurting poor Stefan unless he does something terrible but if it’s to help one of them; that’s out of order in my opinion. I just don’t believe that Elena loves Damon as much Stefan and she never will, she’ll sleep with him whilst Stefan is gone and go back to him. LOVE TRIANGLE OVER. Damon needs a new girlfriend which is not human.

    Elena is a good, kind person so she will forgive him after a while as she will understand that he did it out of love. But, still I hope she doesn’t become a vampire as that will heighten her emotions and make her more angry at Damon (if he survives, he probably will though) and I love her being human as she doesn’t want to become a vampire and not many humans are around in Mystic Falls.

  • Zara-choudhury

    Don’t bash Damon or Stefan for doing the opposite things. Stefan may have wussed out but wtf is he supposed to do, fight Klaus and end up dying or getting tortured? That won’t save Elena, it will only make her upset. On the other end, Damon was trying TOO hard to save Elena getting himself bitten in the process (he could have been killed any moment). None of them achieved their goal, but Stefan is safe and sound whereas, Damon isn’t as he’s too cocky. Different methods lead to different results. I respect both of their methods, Damon was trying to be a hero but merely could end up dead which means he can’t save Elena or anyone else in that regard as he can’t save himself. Let’s hope there is a threesome of Stelenamon (although, this will be incest, they should have turns for dating Elena, it would be funny and they can share like brothers as they are suppose to rather than fighting leading to getting no Elena as she would leave as she wouldn’t want to get in between them so much like Katherine in the past)

  • Zara-choudhury

    I agree completely and I understand both sides of the debate. Come on though, if anyone was Elena you wouldn’t want to die or become a vampire despite what people may say. They are the same, except with becoming a vampire you change a lot and things are out of your control. She loves Stefan in her human state, who knows if she will as a vampire. She may become the next Katherine, who knows? She needs to figure this out before making any rash decisions. With death, you know that it’s over and her religious beliefs assuming that she’s Christian (I don’t know) believes that she can go to Heaven rather than becoming a vampire which is demonic but she can’t help loving Stefan, Damon or Caroline but ELENA does not want their fate upon her as she believes she won’t be able to handle it and will kill people which she is totally against her morals; she’d rather die herself than to kill someone else, quite the opposite of Katherine. Everyone is in a tight position and I hope everything works out for the best as everyone deserves it after the hard times they have been receiving due to silly sacrifices for power etc. destroying everyone’s lives.

  • Rickthepitt

    See,for me the whole S/E v’s D/E thing is a moot point.The fact is there is no Damon and Elena,as of yet.Until D/E become a couple and I see that relationship play out on my tv screen,then I can’t compare them to S/E.Do Damon and Elena have their moments,yes,but those moments do not make them a couple.I stick by my opinion that I don’t think S/E have a healthy couple relationship,but then I don’t think D/E have a healthy friendship.Hell,if I think about I don’t think any relationship on this show is healthy,except maybe Jeremy and Bonnie.But these are only my opinions ,nothing more nothing less.

  • Jill

    I agree, especially the part about where Elena and Damon’s relationship is now. I’d love to see it develop slowly over time if it develops at all. I’d also love to see Elena spend some time on her own getting to know herself a bit better so that if it ever comes down to her making a choice about the brothers she’ll be able to do it with her whole heart and without regrets.

  • Rickthepitt

    Jill,I guess when I look at Elena I see a 17 year old girl with the weight of the world on her shoulders.She needs to grow,she needs to find out who she is,what she wants before she can be anything for someone else.This girl has had one bad thing after another happen to her in such a short time,i’m surprised she hasn’t lost her mind.If you ask me she’s not ready for Damon yet and Damon’s not ready for her.The one thing I do feel safe in saying about a relationship with Damon is it will never be safe,it will never be easy because Damon is none of those things.I’m not going to lie I want to see it all play out,but I really don’t think she’s ready for Damon yet.

  • http://twitter.com/tvd_adriana Adriana Salvatore

    Thanks for eevry single response and every single ”like”,I can’t believe my eyes!!!I’m reading comments hear since one year and never trusted to write something down myself,and now it makes so much fun and it’s very interesting reading discussions here!

    @aya I won’t even start thinking about what will happen to Damon,I think I will get mad if I will :O
    @IansFan I hope so!I read somewhere that Elena will help Damon with his ”humanity problems” in Season 3,I’m so looking forward to it!
    @BeeBlood All I see from Stefan is kissing Elenas ass and say AMEN to everything she says,it’s just so annoying..
    @Bowetara Thank you!
    @guest Kidding? haha,I’m sitting here and smiling like an idiot because someone just said I know how to write!Thanks so so so much,if only my english teacher would know all of this!If it comes down to TVD/Damon words just spreading out of me.I’m watching this show ONLY in english because the german voices are HORRIBLE and I’m reading so much comments on this side and so much fanfics,it seams like I start thinking in english instead of german!I hate german language,I want to speak english with everyone :( ..says an Italian living in Germany lmfao :D Whatever,thanks a lot :)

  • germantvdfan

    Really like your comment, it’s nearly philosophical, a very good level. For me as non-native it’s difficult to express my opinion like you can. But you wrote exactly the words which are in my mind!

  • Linn

    By the way, I just saw something, in the promo for the next episode, when someone lay the rose at the grave, they put the rose on the grave which is next to the grave of a Gilbert, so maybe it is Jenna, and she is going to be buried next to hers sister. Have anyone else seen or thought about that?

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  • Crazyfangirl311

    I agree that Elena has forgiven Damon for a lot. Damon will probably have to earn her trust again and their friendship is forever changed.

    (sidenote: And I feel like we always forget about the fact that Damon has slept/hooked up with her mother in the past).

  • Crazyfangirl311

    Why would Elena forgive Damon knowing he was bitten by a werewolf? What difference does it make if Elena is still being turned into a vampire?

  • http://twitter.com/writergrl13 Melissa Cancelliere

    once again great recap crissy keep up the good work!!! bfore we get started on my theory i have to say this the other day i posted something on here on an other article and it was my theory on what will happen in the season finale and i put the title as i lay dying as the title instead of the last day (dope) i just wanted to put that out there to let pple know that i made a mistake.

    So ok now to my theory: I think that Jenna will die so that she can save Elena I think Bonnie will end up killing Klaus and I don’t think she will die while killing Klaus. Woo hoo Matt finally realized that Caroline is NOT a bad vampire I have been rooting for them since season one I really do hope to see more of Matt and Caroline in season 3!! I also hope to see more of Jeremey and Bonnie in season 3:) Now onto Katherine I think she will survive only because she knows a lot about “The Originals” and I do hope to see her in season 3 and some pple may hate me for this but I am starting to like katherine a lot and I hope she does stick around. ok Elijah I love him an all but I dont trust him something is off about him sorry guys but that is just how I feel about him but I do have to say he does have really really good hair and he is a really bad ass vampire and I do have a feeling that we will b seeing him in season 3. Poor Aunt Jenna I really did like her and I love her and alaric together it will b very upsetting to see her go:(

    Now onto the Salvator Brothers:) I think Damon will make it I think they will use the elixir to bring him back and I really dont wanna see anything happen to Stefan as much as I dont like him and Elena together I prefar Damon/Elena sorry guys LOVED them together in the books and I Elena will forgive Damon she will realize why he did it and she just put it aside and forgive him. Last but not least Elena I was in tears when she was crying when Bonnie dyed and I was in tears in when she told Stefan that she didnt want to b a vampire but I do think that Elena will become a vampire I have hopes that she will.

    All in all this was a really good episode I can not wait for the next two episodes and the season finale I am sure it will be an epic finale.

  • Jill

    I hear ya, and I completely agree. I also don’t think Damon’s ready for her. If they got together now she’d end up hurt and disappointed. She doesn’t need anymore of that.

  • blackcalla

    Well, here’s my two cents’ worth:
    I was talking to my hubby about the discussion on this site, and first I have to say what I told him was how impressed I was with all the differing opinions being civil and respectful. I love that about this site – all of the posts may not agree, but they agree to disagree for the most part. There’s no cussing and swearing, or putting other people down. Just had to say that.
    Other than that, I have to add just one more thing to the heated “Is Damon horrible for making Elena drink his blood” discussion. I truly think that scene probably pushed a lot of our deepest buttons (something I give the writers kudos for) and our life experience has a lot to do with how we all reacted. We are all different people with different backgrounds and experiences, so I believe that it definitely colours our reactions. I am just happy to be reading all the responses.
    And yes, I am partially guilty of being in love (or lust?) with Damon (of course in fantasy only do I like the bad boy!) and yes, he is so good-looking it’s really hard for me to condemn him. So you got me! But also, I hope I am not quite that shallow and also see that under the horrible action he took, there is someone who truly loves and feels but is too impulsive to stop himself before there are some pretty serious repercussions. I bet this discussion is over now anyways, but I had to add that in!