Where are you seeing people bashing Stefan? I’m just curious?! I have read all the posts and it’s mainly frustrations with Elena’s disdain at having to be with Damon! I don’t think we need to bash anybody, no need for that!

well, i consider it a Stelena song mostly, for they danced to it as well :) so Delena’s, Stelena’s and Klaroline’s. :) and all fits together.

 Really? Elena is scared like hell about her feelings for Damon. For nothing on earth she would allow herself to face them – except for Stefan. She looks like she is going to her own excecution. I guess she knows how weak she is around Damon, I mean, if her guards are down…. and that’s what she has to do, but doesn’t want. I bet a part of her is looking forward to the trip – but she would never admit it to herself or to anybody else. So what do you do? Act like you don’t want to….

That’s one of my major problems with Delena. In order for them to be together, Damon would have to be with a girl who is ashamed of him.

Being with someone who looks down on you is just soul destroying and I don’t want that for Damon.

there is another sneak peek: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5KWLptUQs4

That’s my fear for him as well. Not looking forward to heartbreak again. They’ll just make him go off the deep end like they love him to do.

Hahaha…”drama queen”.

Yes, everybody says it ad nauseam, which is really irritating. Why does every single character in TVD need to say that Elena loves Damon? It’s such a cop out. I need to see it on screen, not be told about it by the other characters. Until Elena vocalizes it, Elena DOES NOT love Damon. Just my 2 cents.

 Does Stefan even know that Kol is there? None of them know, only Klaus is aware.

Idk if Stefan knows but I assumed Bonnie knew because Klaus showed her how easily he could get at Jeremy to hurt him. If that’s the case I’d assume she would mention it at some point. Then again in the synopsis it sounds like Damon and Elean are surprised Kol is there. Hmmm…on second thought let’s go with Canderella’s idea about the condom. LMAO.

Ya she needs some for sure..

I know I don’t find it offensive because it’s true.

I know right? Just let the man’s heart heal and let him move on. Damon has accepted that she doesn’t want him and he is trying to be supportive of his brother and his BFF Ric. It isn’t like he blows her off and doesn’t still save her ass. He already proved that so she’s getting the things she wants out of him without being involved with him. Just leave well enough alone. We all know she only wants Stefan otherwise it wouldn’t be so torturous for her to go away with Damon and she wouldn’t need to be forced. That forcing her to go really rubs me the wrong way. If it were her idea to go I’d say that she really is trying to resolve how she feels. I just hate that she is doing it to appease Stefan. Really makes her look weak. Also, I realize Stefan isn’t trying to be malicious to Damon but he knows Damon was hurt by Elena’s rejection but has accepted it and is trying to move on. Why would you want to subject your brother again to inevitable heartbreak by reopening that wound when you know full well this girl would throw all her feelings out the door to be with you? Are you that insecure that you really need to see your brother crushed one more time just so you can be sure you’re the one and only? He isn’t doing Damon any favors.

I can see that. 

I think Damon has always been insecure about Damon, since S1! It maybe that Stefan really wants Elena to be honest with herself about being in love with Damon. He sees it, others see it… he wants her to face her feelings and accept them! I also think that at this point Stefan would willingly step aside and let Damon have the girl if she chooses him! I got that impression after episode 15 ‘all my children’… I don’t know that Stefan WANTS to hurt Damon, but I think he really believes that Elena has stronger feelings than she is willing to admit to herself for Damon. And maybe, just perhaps, he wants Damon to be happy in love… who knows?!!! I have a hard time imagining that Stefan would purposely choose to hurt Damon!
One other thought I had, all this hostility from Elena toward Damon could also be from the fact that she feels HE is the reason why she lost Stefan in the first place… he went to save his brother! He did all he did and became the ripper,, ‘ripper lite’ as I call it, to save Damon. So she may be blaming Damon for all the estrangement she feels with Stefan. If it wasn’t for Damon, she would still be with Stefan and all would as it was!!!
See, this is an issue I had with Stefan going dark this season, he did it all in an act of heroism, to save who? Damon!!! Always the problem!!! It seems to be their recipe, even when Stefan is bad, we are supposed to admire him because he did it as a selfless act!!! And Damon? He is the one always causing trouble!!!

I don’t mean Stefan is intentionally trying to get Damon hurt but the result will still be the same because he is pushing for Elena to do something she clearly doesn’t want to do just to either confirm his fears or to prove he can be secure with her love. She’s already begged him back and sworn she loves him so why subject your brother to the potential pain of yet another rejection? If Stefan is so unsure about her loyalty then don’t go back with her but don’t push her to your brother either. Let him figure it out if it’s naturally meant to be. I get that maybe he wants them both to be happy but it’s like he is making the decision for everyone. If she had told Stefan she was in love with Damon then maybe I could understand better him suggesting she explore her feelings before she decides. But seriously she has decided.

It is possible Elena is blaming Damon for the rift between her and Stefan but why now? She didn’t blame him before the kiss? I guess maybe because before she thought he wasn’t getting back with her because of his Ripper phase guilt but now it’s because of Damon. That’s so not fair especially when Damon accepted defeat and backed away yet he still can’t do anything right.

Yeah I saw that but I knew what you meant. :)

Another thought…what a frustrating yet aw brotherly moment if they both truly give Elena up for each other. Before when they tried that they were still in competition mode.

Hahahaha spell on his bed, HA! That’s funny……UGH!! SCREW JAMIE!! That whole thing feels so forced! i don’t see it, I mean I didn’t care for Beremy wither but I adjusted, I just want this girl to get some, hahaha even though I see no chemistry between Jamie and Bonnie, maybe he can make her happy, she seemed happy at the dance with him, so that’s something, it was just nice to see her smile for once.

 Hi vamplover, don´t know when you last checked in here but there is a Canadion promo and there you see right what you thought: Stefan tries to hit the hiding place of the stake out of Ric (or Mr. Hyde, can´t see that) and I don´t like that! Damon and Elena kiss, Bex wants to kill all Originals and Stefan tells Klaus the bloodline thing … interesting!

THANK YOU. WORD.

Fans that like Stefan/Elena like them for their amazing chemistry and beautiful scenes. Delena fans like Damon/Elena because they find Ian S better looking?! oh and because Stefan is “boring”. im not sure what MORE the writers can do to show u that Stefan is the MOST dynamic character on the show.

YOU GUYS THERE IS A CANADIAN PROMO…AND IF YOU ARE A DELENA FAN YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO DIE…OF JOY.