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SHORT PROMO FOR THE VAMPIRE DIARIES: FIFTY SHADES OF GRAYSON (EP510 – MID-SEASON FINALE)

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COMPLETE SONGLIST FOR THE VAMPIRE DIARIES: THE CELL (EP509)

While Stefan is busy trying to ignore his own problems by helping Katherine in her time of need, Damon reveals the secret, terrible ordeal from his past to Elena. We, however, have seen what his cellmate looks like, so it couldn’t have been entirely bad. Elena looks set to be going through an ordeal of her own, involving being strapped to an ominous looking metal table. Is that the cackle of a mad scientist we hear in the background?

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  • SSisters

    I’m with you DelenaTVDFreak. Damon was betrayed early on by everyone he loved. He dealt with his issues alone and in private. Just because he didn’t trumpet regret to the judging masses doesn’t mean he didn’t feel it or show it through heroic actions for these very people who even now continue to tear him down.

    He never had a village to support him like Stefan and I don’t buy that the village supported Stefan because he was the good brother – it was because they didn’t truly know who Stefan was and the fact he dealt with similar demons and perhaps had been involved in worse activities than Damon had.

    His story continues to unfold. It stands to reason that many viewers espouse the surface characterization that Damon is the bad brother…the anti-hero because the script allows individuals as guilty as our handsome bad boy to point their dirty little fingers instead of looking at their own behavior. So Damon doesn’t play. Damon doesn’t gloss over. Big deal. He doesn’t owe them his innermost reflections. He has a different drummer he follows and admits he is a work in progress which is more than can be said for some. I’m with you – I don’t want him completely reformed or docile. People die when Damon isn’t watching over them in top fighting form. He needs his vampire edge to rescue the little lambs from themselves.

  • heartisreeling

    I agree with you 100% here

  • mydamonheart

    wow, beautifully written post. I can’t disagree with anything. This exactly how I see Damon.

  • shoe20

    Hey 55′, I know exactly what you preferences are and how you express them is entirely your decision….Personally I haven’t seen you hot very many times..lol The way I look at it is this is an OPEN forum …. which to me means every voice has the right to be heard. Of course the right comes with conditions, but only a couple….No bashing posters…No bashing actors, writers, or producers…Characters are totally fair game…Still the post need to be polite and should be referenced with quotes and scenes…rather that fiction and assumptions…but how we see these scenes depends on our character bias. The moderators on this forum are the fairest I’ve encountered….as long as you stay away from personal attacks on real people..I’ve never seen them go after someone unfairly.
    As far as others labeling me because of my preference….that’s really not my problem. as I see it. It’s not a requirement to post here, that everyone loves the same characters. =)

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    Thanks SSisters. I see very few on here who see Damon for who he is.

    What jumps out at me on your post is “anit-hero” for I don’t believe him to be this at all.

    Wikipedia defines anti-hero thus:
    The antihero[1] or antiheroine[2] is a leading character in a film, book or play who lacks some or all of the traditional heroic qualities,[3][4] such as altruism,[citation needed] idealism,[5] courage,[5] nobility,[6] fortitude,[7] and moral goodness.[8]

    Whereas the classical hero is larger than life, antiheroes are typically inferior to the reader in intelligence, dynamism or social purpose[9] – giving rise to what Robbe-Grillet called “these heroes without naturalness as without identity”.[10]

    Damon has demonstrated altruism time and again, selflessness-concern for the welfare of others; idealism for he deals with reality; courage-I’d have to have a lot of time for this, but standing in front of Elena whenever threatened; nobility, although he doesn’t show it-it isn’t seen, I believe some do admire him, i.e. Elena, “why don’t you let people see good,” however, he does lack in this department based on his self worth. He is generous-telling Liz she is wrong, Caroline is still her daughter, honest-telling Stefan he does love Elena, telling Elena he is a monster, a vampire; and back to courage, again he doesn’t “advertise” it; fortitude is a given, his mental strength and courage alone to face down danger and pain, i.e. sacrificing himself as a vampire for Klaus’ ritual. Moral goodness is his biggest obstacle when we break down this definition. His morals are on track yet its the manner in which he chooses to deal with them, but the end result is still a positive outcome.

    So I disagree he is the anti-hero. He may be depicted as such, but when you get to the oohy goohy center, he is the hero.

    I can break it down for Stefan too, but I don’t have much time left. Perhaps you can take a stab at it. For I believe each brother possesses some of the same qualities and also lacks as well, or at least the way they portray to others.

    Looking forward to your comments.

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    Thank you Andrew for this post. I appreciate your honesty. However, I don’t think you should refrain from discussing or debating Damon or any character. It is healthy to discuss because not everyone sees the same. Perhaps you convey your thoughts more harshly when putting pen to paper and but you feel differently. This is very easy to do, I’m quite guilty of it myself, so I understand. Please do continue with all posts regarding all characters.

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    LOL! None of these characters are without faults. I understand why you may challenge him as I do challenge Stefan frequently or even Caroline and more so Katherine. All of them really. And I absolutely love Katherine, so go figure!

    Damon the eternal victim? I had to laugh!

  • dman_24

    Andrew, there’s no need for you to refrain from criticizing Damon. As far as I can tell, all your critiques have been justified, and I’ve agreed with most of them. I think you’re making a bigger deal of this than it needs to be.

    My whole philosophy on criticism is I’ll criticize a character if I feel they’ve done something wrong, or something uncharacteristic of their normal behavior. And I’ll do that regardless if I love that character or not. People’s opinions doesn’t influence me one way or another. BUT, I’ll also compliment that character if I feel it’s necessary, so as not to seem as though I have some agenda towards him or her. In that way it adds a little balance to my evaluation of those characters. This, I think, is the right approach to take. Unfortunately, not everyone does that.

  • dman_24

    Yes, that was a bad job by Damon not warning her about the college. Where was his head at? Probably planted firmly between………….. at that moment. Haha! I guess I can’t blame him afterall. :)

  • dman_24

    You probably should’ve been here a year ago, cause it was Damon central as far as I was concerned. A lot of the really staunch Damon fans left the site or stopped commenting in general. I knew them all. And trust me, they were pretty vocal. But they are some Damon fans left though, even if it might not seem that way. I’m just happy there are more Stefan fans around, cause before I

  • heartisreeling

    That is exactly what I said in my post.

  • heartisreeling

    Right here!! Love him forever

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    Thanks. I’ve found a few and the interaction between both has been decent. Damon central would have been fun, but I didn’t start watching until this past summer on Netflix.

  • heartisreeling

    Thank you!! You have stated it perfectly. These vamps have been way too human lately. I also loved the scene of Damon flipping his switch. The grief and torment on his face was heartbreaking. It also spoke volumes that he never told Stefan, to spare him the grief and instead carrying it all himself.

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    LOL. I just commented to another poster that I was seeing more and more. Even the interaction with others has been pretty good. This one poster said this site was primarily Damon about a year ago. Too bad I missed it.

  • heartisreeling

    I don’t see it that way. He is not killing Whitmores blindly at all, rather he is methodically hunting them down one by one leaving only one person per generation. He is carrying out his revenge exactly the way he told Enzo he would. It does not matter to him if they are still involved in torturing vamps. He sees it as their punishment for torturing him and killing Enzo, that now their line will be haunted and killed off by him forever. I don’t know that it makes him feel better at all, more like it makes him feel that Enzo’s memory will not be forgotten and the people responsible will pay the price.

    As far as saving Enzo, if he could have he would have that much was obvious by the look on his face before he flipped his switch. I don’t think he knows that Enzo is still alive.

    One loophole that I do see is that if he was keeping track of the Whitmores how is it possible that he did not know they were still capturing and torturing vamps near the college?

  • heartisreeling

    I agree that Enzo will have a LOT of choice words for Damon when he sees him again. But on the whole he has been presented as a genuinely level-headed character. I would not blame him for going after Damon for revenge, but I don’t know if I see that happening. I would like to see them duke it out and then get back to being friends. Damon needs a new Alaric ;-) That could just be wishful thinking on my part though.

  • heartisreeling

    I’ve tried some of the Damon and Delena sites, the debates are non-existent so its not nearly as fun ;-)

  • SSisters

    Food for thought on authenticity:

    “There is beauty in truth, even if it’s painful. Those who lie, twist life so that it looks tasty to the lazy, brilliant to the ignorant, and
    powerful to the weak. But lies only strengthen our defects. They don’t teach anything, help anything, fix anything or cure anything. Nor do they develop one’s character, one’s mind, one’s heart or one’s soul.”

    José N. Harris

  • mydamonheart

    I agree that SHE made Stefan twice as interesting, lets just hope he doesn’t make her twice as boring if we are to endure this relationship.

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    Story line, very well I will call it SL. I’m not very good with acronyms so a bit of guidance will be needed. If I asked who SL was why did you have a feeling I knew this? I’m confused. You state
    SL a character I will probably like….Will he be with Elena?
    so I thought you were referring to a character with the initials SL, please tell me more.

    I prefer to be called by my given name Delena please. What is HRS?

    Thanks, I enjoy posting with all and look forward to more.

  • DelenaTVDFreak

    I’m fairly new to this so I have been searching around at different sites. There is one that is extremely Stefan or SE and I can’t even post anything with out getting jumped on by teenagers who don’t know their head from a hole in the ground and that’s pointless. You have to choose your battles wisely and you can tell the age by the writing. I see a mature audience here, so I will stay and see what happens. There are few others ones I like to visit as well.

  • SSisters

    lol – I think you have put it succinctly in a very nice nutshell. I agree the term “anti-hero” for Damon is no longer an accurate contemporary description of him. Is he the hero? Yes – often. Is there a hero amongst vampires? Probably not. However, if it were life or death and I had to choose a vampire for my team, it would most likely be Damon. (Elijah gets my second pick. Kat would likely be third, but only if she had a very good reason to keep me alive and not put herself first.)

  • TrueBlond

    Finally people are speaking up. I come here and read a lot but don’t
    post because you all jump on anyone with anything good to say about
    Damon then pretend to be all inclusive and everything but make snarky
    personal comments about other posters just mild enough not to get
    deleted but getting the dig in. Maybe this is changing with more people trying to discuss stuff. I can see the people saying they don’t do this who do it the most. This place should be for everyone.

  • Andrew55

    Again, I am not a Damon hater. I love Stefan and because of that, I may have some bias. I can not apologize enough for creating the illusion that all I worry about is finding faults in Damon. I respect everyone on here and look forward to discussing the show with all of you, regardless of personal preferences or ships.

  • shoe20

    lol, thanks for praising my beauty in truth, @mydamonheart. =) Is there a reason your posting under two different names on the same thread? just curious

  • mydamonheart

    Why on earth would you think that? what are you implying? I am not masquerading under ssister screen name like you are suggesting. My posts are fair and my opinion and my opinion only. Just so we are clear.

  • shoe20

    Sry, but when I clicked on your screen name ssisters cameup…..my bad..hope this doesn’t conflict with future interactions, I enjoy your responces.

  • mydamonheart

    Disqus has been known to have errors but I really think you should be more careful what you post when you are posting in an open forum and implying someone has agenda without evidence. I am going to ask the mods to remove these posts for that reason.

  • shoe20

    honestly, I’m not trying to drive the wedge, between you and I….just a clractionation of where we stand.

  • shoe20

    ask away

  • shoe20

    Why then does discus come up with-the same user ? I.m confused and thats not a norm. thorough not unheard of, lol

  • mydamonheart

    I have no clue, perhaps the mods can shed some light. I am not afraid to debate with you and I have no need to hide my identity, just know that. SSisters may be a little offended also that I have the credit for her post.

  • Kate

    Weird, looks like a freak Disqus error. You’re definitely coming through as your own person on my end. :)

  • shoe20

    sry if I overstep. honestly it was not my objective, i would be more than happy to debate you on the facts, and we can put all this other S behind us

  • mydamonheart

    Thanks, very strange. I know disqus can sometimes play up, but I have never heard of this issue before.

  • shoe20

    OMG thats a first….how it that a possibility. lol

  • mydamonheart

    What facts?? I don’t follow. I was not involved in the above conversation to start with. But, I accept your apology and we should move on. Thanks.

  • SSisters

    mydamonheart – I am not offended in the least. You can represent me any old day because I think you know your stuff! However, it may be you who are offended by being accused of being me! :)

  • mydamonheart

    Not really, I wish I could wax poetic but I can’t sadly :( .
    But you obviously have a gift.

  • Heather_78

    I’m a little confused about the whole vervain stuff. I thought the Salvatores & co were ingesting vervain so it wouldn’t hurt them anymore? Yet every other episode, vervain seems 2 be affecting them. Have I missed or forgotten something? (It HAS been almost 100 episodes, so it’s possible I forgot something).

  • shoe20

    Let me clarify…when I clicked on your user name, Discus gave me the same stats and when I clicked on SSisters it gave me you screen name. There is the point of my personal confusion……could be on my end…LOL Tks for the help, Kate…..This was an honest evaluational of the facts on my screen. LOL done

  • SSisters

    Up out of the prone position Shoe. No grovelling necessary and no harm done. I think everyone gets what happened. Your little propensity to “investigate” connected me with a friend.

  • shoe20

    good servalence, but I’m sure Grayson is knee deep in the SL

  • heartisreeling

    I think Elena should be strong enough by now to handle more family drama, but seriously hasn’t she been through enough of it already?! And Jeremy too for that matter

  • heartisreeling

    I’m not too sure either, but I believe it takes a very long time to build up any kind of resistance. Damon and Stefan have only been ingesting it for a short while compared to Katherine who had been doing this for over one hundred years. Also it will still burn them if it comes into contact with their skin and prevent them from being able to compel people who wear it. I think ingesting it only helps them build up a tolerance to drinking it (ie drinking from humans who have ingested it or water that has vervain in it)

  • Nessa

    It sure was any scene that Stefan has with Kat and Elena is chemistry…with Damon i just crack up anytime he has a scene with Elena…lame and boring

  • Nessa

    Like how Damon and Elena have become uninteresting now that they are together….yawn

  • mydamonheart

    You have to have actual scenes together to be interesting.





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